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compuw22c 08-02-2016 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by freedomgli (Post 1350946)
So has anyone tried updating their CAN module firmware yet? I've got one of the early boxes from 2014 and thinking about updating to firmware version V1.0.4 that I found out about thanks to Track Speed Engineering (hey Rev - your website sucks!)

His website can't suck too much if it helped you discover a new version of a firmware for a part you have :loser:

gjsmith66 08-02-2016 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by freedomgli (Post 1350946)
So has anyone tried updating their CAN module firmware yet? I've got one of the early boxes from 2014 and thinking about updating to firmware version V1.0.4 that I found out about thanks to Track Speed Engineering (hey Rev - your website sucks!)

Can you share the link? I'll give it a try.

akbloom 08-02-2016 11:50 PM

I have an older unit too. How can you tell what firmware it's loaded with? Are there instructions for updating the firmware? Also, what changed in the 1.0.4 release? ie: is it worth the effort to upgrade

Reverant 08-03-2016 11:30 AM

The firmware is not upgradeable. The different firmware versions are due to different hardware revisions of the board (V1.0, V2.0, V2.1).

freedomgli 08-03-2016 01:02 PM

Well that settles it then.

Chiburbian 10-15-2016 11:50 PM

I'm having problems getting it working.

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Reverant 10-16-2016 02:44 AM

Make sure the CAN Module's ID is set to 9 in your project properties.

Chiburbian 10-16-2016 05:54 AM

It is.

is the CANegt internally terminated? I'm also running a microsquirt I/O.

Reverant 10-16-2016 07:28 AM

There's a jumper inside the unit for termination. If you are running a microsquirt for I/O, then you need to remove the jumper.

Also make sure the unit is receiving power. The red and green LEDs should be on.

Chiburbian 10-16-2016 11:55 AM

Where are the LEDs?
Are there holes or are they internal only?

Reverant 10-16-2016 01:07 PM

They are internal. There are also LEDs for CAN comms between the MS3 and the module, for serial and OBD. If the module is correctly connected to the CAN bus and you've set the CAN option to fetch the data through the CAN EGO system (ID 9, table 0, offset 0), the CAN led should be blinking as well.

DNMakinson 10-16-2016 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1295563)
Your wiring is correct. Yes, you can leave the analog output connected. The ground doesn't matter any more, you can use any ground for the aem and the module, in fact it's best to use DB37 pin 3 for the module and any other ground for the aem.

How about using the #21, Blk ground for the CAN Module? (MS3-Basic). Would that be better or worse than using the Pin3 blk/grn Sensor ground?

Chiburbian 10-16-2016 09:02 PM

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I don't see a jumper?

plus, red and green lights are lit as well as flashing blues.

Reverant 10-17-2016 02:04 AM

Are both blue LEDs flashing?

Chiburbian 10-17-2016 06:05 AM

Yes, well... they are both lit. I'll have to double check.

Reverant 10-17-2016 08:28 AM

Check if they are flashing. Make sure you have the CAN EGO option switched on,

Chiburbian 10-17-2016 10:22 AM

Ok. Will do when I get off of work. if there were a jumper installed, where would it be?

Next minor question- I see a v102 file on trackspeeds website and a v104 file somewhere else. Are they BOTH for running both AEM and Innovate or is the v102 the only version compatible with AEM? Which should I use?

EDIT: I pulled my laptop out during lunch and checked. Looks like v104 is what I want. One thing I noticed was that under the CAN setup tab when I first installed the .ini file, I was unable to select which CAN ID I wanted that .ini to control. If I close the dialog after creating the CAN device and reopen the properties window and select the CAN devices tab I can then select device ID #9.

How does the device know it is #9? Is it that way from the factory? Theoretically if I wanted to use a second CANegt box, I would need to install one, change the CANegt boxes device number to something other than 9, and then install the next one (which will then be #9?).

I am trying to understand this whole thing.

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Reverant 10-17-2016 06:48 PM

Your board version requires the ini v1.0.2, not 1.0.4.

The module's ID is set to 9 by default. So that's what you should use.

Chiburbian 10-17-2016 09:16 PM

When I set "connected devices" to 9 it worked fine. I don't know if it's the current tunerstudio version but as I mentioned I couldn't select that when I set it up.

thanks for the help.

DNMakinson 10-28-2016 06:31 AM

Back to FW. The instructions that I have suggests that I load FW 1.04 in order to be able to see the CAN in T/S. Do I understand that correctly?

At this point, I have the MS working properly with the CAN module on 1.02. (I have not started the car yet, but TS properly shows 14.7 during warmup and then full lean, as expected.

2nd question: Is there a way to have a TS gauge that shows the CAN WB reading (as it does now) and a separate one that displays the results of the LC-2 Yellow wire which is still connected? This is just for an temporary reference of how much my tune might have been off before.

3rd question: 1.4.1 FW on MS3 allows a setting on the CAN screen to ignore the smoothing. If that is set, does it matter if I change the smoothing to "100"? Just being inquisitive here.


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