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But what benefits would I see from running my G-Loc 12/10 brakes for track and street? I know yours are bonded not riveted so longer pad life which is nice. What other benefits are there? I'm sure you can understand why someone might be a little skeptical when you tell them to put smaller brakes on a car with 3x the power of an otherwise stock 1.8
Recommending a caliper with slightly smaller piston size is not like recommending "smaller" brakes in general. If a size Large helmet is the right fit for your head, then a size XL is larger but that doesn't make it better. The importance of the caliper piston size is in how it relates to the other pistons in the system (front calipers and master cylinder), in the same way that the importance of the helmet size is in how it fits on your head. Bigger / smaller is not better / worse respectively. A smaller piston size in the rear caliper may improve your brake balance. It also may not, but that depends on the other elements in your brake system. This has been covered pretty exhaustively elsewhere.
Originally Posted by Mazdaspeeder
I'm sure you can understand why someone might be a little skeptical when you tell them to put smaller brakes on a car with 3x the power of an otherwise stock 1.8
The thing begging skepticism is why such a car is still using factory size brakes in the first place.
Recommending a caliper with slightly smaller piston size is not like recommending "smaller" brakes in general. If a size Large helmet is the right fit for your head, then a size XL is larger but that doesn't make it better. The importance of the caliper piston size is in how it relates to the other pistons in the system (front calipers and master cylinder), in the same way that the importance of the helmet size is in how it fits on your head. Bigger / smaller is not better / worse respectively. A smaller piston size in the rear caliper may improve your brake balance. It also may not, but that depends on the other elements in your brake system. This has been covered pretty exhaustively elsewhere.
The thing begging skepticism is why such a car is still using factory size brakes in the first place.
I had issues using hawk HPS pads but that’s to be expected. Was ready to get a BBK but many suggested Carbotech pads so at half the price I tried them and no more brake issues since. Our local track doesn’t require a ton of braking either. I’m moreso wondering how these compare to what I have now because I also hear good things about PFC. I don’t know the details of caliper and piston size or how that works so to someone who doesn’t know, the non sport caliper sounds like a downgrade when it may very well not be.
When it comes to stopping a vehicle. we have many components working together, finding a balance is the key to stopping performance. It's commonplace to compare brakes to power. Many think to have less power is a downgrade and I would agree it is, but try not to think like that around brakes. When it comes to vehicle declaration performance do remove the term 'Downgrade' from your vocabulary, and Replace it with 'Balance'.
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Originally Posted by Mobius
Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
Brian Putt is NASA SE Super unlimited East coast champion. Crew Cheif Jim Lock uses PFC 13 compound and was able to race Larger more powerful prototypes.
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Originally Posted by Mobius
Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
Excuse my lack of reading comprehension, but is there a PFC compound that you guys sell/recommend for enduro use? Quasi-PTE car with Hankook RS4s, no aero, plain 1.8 calipers front and rear? Needs to last 15 hours minimum.
Excuse my lack of reading comprehension, but is there a PFC compound that you guys sell/recommend for enduro use? Quasi-PTE car with Hankook RS4s, no aero, plain 1.8 calipers front and rear? Needs to last 15 hours minimum.
PFC 11 will last 15hours easy. I have teams that run them for multiple races. How many races they last will depend on the drivers.
Highly recommended you run slotted rotors for maximum life.
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Originally Posted by Mobius
Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
There's a track day at Homestead Miami this Sunday. The weather supposed to be 62 in the morning with a high of 80 and sunny. Wintertime is track season down here. Y'all come.
Winter track time is a double edge sword. It's great to run to Florida, but I end up spending my Christmas budget on track time. :P it's not-so fun avoiding the family for 12 months.
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Originally Posted by Mobius
Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
Do you have PFC compounds for Wilwood Powerlite calipers? I have 4 of them on my ND. I am currently running Ferodo DS2500's and they used to be quiet, then I did two days at Laguna Seca, and now they are super loud and squeal. Each wheel has a different pitch and it is driving me crazy. The car is my fun car, I have to drive 5+ hours to even get to a track, and I don't tow the ND, so I need a one pad solution. Got suggestions?
Hello Chilicharger,
I'm sorry we don't have pads for powerlight calipers. Franky a little shocked your car has 4 of those calipers. We do have Padgid offerings for the OEM Brembo package. and FYI race pads will be noisy, they have no provisions for noise deadening.
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Originally Posted by Mobius
Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
There's a track day at Homestead Miami this Sunday. The weather supposed to be 62 in the morning with a high of 80 and sunny. Wintertime is track season down here. Y'all come.
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