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Old 03-12-2008, 03:40 PM   #41
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^Thanks for that. I'm definitely getting the 3" flange, the question mark is because I don't know how much Bell will charge, but I suspect it's not much at all. I already have the LC1-XD16, so that's not an issue. $300 for the oil cooler / filter relocation seems pretty reasonable as all hoses & fittings are included.

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get a mocal sandwich plate, 24 row exchanger, and let me know if you want a good deal on fittings and hose. I paid $80 for blue hose and all fittings from a place in OKC called DJ's industrial rubber supply. You will probably need AN-10 lines.

Also, be prepared to cut up your hood for cooling.
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:42 PM   #42
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Thanks Hustler. I'm in on the Autoconexion vented hood deal.

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Old 03-13-2008, 11:54 PM   #43
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I just installed the s3 w/ mspnp, I am looking into a dyno day, and when I searched for steady state dyno's, a shop showed up in LI, I am going to call them tomorrow and see what the rates are and what they know about the MS. If you would like to take a look at the kit, I would be more than happy to meet up so you can take a look.

I dont have much experience with any of this stuff, but I can tell you that I was very pleased with fit and finish, all parts went together as planned. I am still working on tuning (thanks paul for pointing me in the right direction and helping me get this thing at least safe to drive).
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ABSOLUTELY! I'd love to check the car out, let me know if you come to the Island. What's the name of the shop and what town are they in?

What turbo are you running, and how much boost? How do you like the Enthuza exhaust? I'm planning on having Bell make me a 3" outlet SG downpipe, and running 3" all the way to the bumper, and since they have Enthuza systems for $100 off this month, and now that they're selling MSPNP's, I'm thinking I might as well just give Corky & Co power of attorney to my Double Secret Car Upgrade Slush Fund.

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since they have Enthuza systems for $100 off this month, and now that they're selling MSPNP's, I'm thinking I might as well just give Corky & Co power of attorney to my Double Secret Car Upgrade Slush Fund.

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you and me both, I've just been procrastinating on the call because it's going to hurt.
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:25 AM   #46
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ABSOLUTELY! I'd love to check the car out, let me know if you come to the Island. What's the name of the shop and what town are they in?

What turbo are you running, and how much boost? How do you like the Enthuza exhaust? I'm planning on having Bell make me a 3" outlet SG downpipe, and running 3" all the way to the bumper, and since they have Enthuza systems for $100 off this month, and now that they're selling MSPNP's, I'm thinking I might as well just give Corky & Co power of attorney to my Double Secret Car Upgrade Slush Fund.

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The shop info is www.grandprixpt.com, I never heard of them, but i found it online somewhere searching for "steady state" dyno's, there contact info from their site states :
Grand Prix Performance Tuning
1225 Wantagh Ave.
Wantagh, NY 11793
Phone: 516-785-3200

I spoke a local shop that said they can replicate different driving scenerio's, does that mean its "steady state". I am completely new to this area and any guidence would be appreaciated.

I pretty much went with Corky's recommendations based on my conversaton of being a track purpose car, he gave me the 2860 with divorced dp, and I went with the enthuza on his recommendation as well. As far as how I like it, it has only been driven for a test ride and some tuning, but it should be a blast on the track. I have no idea how much power its making, but I know that it accelerates a hell of a lot faster at highway cruising speed then it used to. I am going to see if I can hookup one of those in car g-force/1/4mile things someone got me a while ago and see what it says with regards to HP and times.

There is a auto x event at Giants stadium tomorrow that I may try to make, let me know if you think you can go over to jersey?
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I hope you share your experience here as I'll be looking for a good tuner for pretty much the exact same setup in a couple months. I'm considering this place: http://www.automasterofwestchester.com/ because it's close to me, but I don't know if they're familiar with MS and I'd rather drive a little bit and use a place that has tuned it before.
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unfortunately no tuning this week, sprung a leak on the oil feed line last night during some street tuning. I want to try and work some bugs out and learn a little bit before i go to sit for dyno run. Have to get new oil feed line, the angle at which it connects to the distribution block doesnt look good, I dont think it can/should be any tighter, and i can see the angle on the fitting itself. I cant wait to finish sorting and get this thing to the track, I was hoping for a late march day, but I am not sure if I will be able to get it straight before then. Where can you buy these hoses? The one has a brass 90 fitting with a straight alum on the other, I would like a little offset on one end and the 90 stays on the turbo side?
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One last thing. I have had to leave my car at the track at least once after driving it there and having it break on me at the track (3 of the 4 8mm studs between the manifold and the turbo decided to back out, and when the turbo cocked it broke the 4th, and then I broke another one trying to remove them all. Not a good day.). The ride home was easy (thankfully) since my dad was there with his car as well, but I still had to spend 6 hours the following day taking our Suburban and a borrowed flatbed 200 miles north to retrieve it.

The car made it through 12 track days without needing a trailer, but the 13th was a big enough PITA that I will be towing the car to future track days.
The good news - Bell has switched to a larger stud for the turbo to the mani. I had the 8mm studs and broke a bunch, sheared or backed out like 6, broke one or two removing them (yeah they're a bitch to get out once well heat cycled) - just ask Steph :-P , but Bell with thier awsome cust service (yeah I'm kinda an advocate now - hard not to be) replaced the mani 2x (so I didn't heave to deal with finding a machine shop to remove the studs - think heavy duty extractors broken in the studs - not easyout crap...) then they switched me to bigger studs - all at no charge mind you! and I've been problem free ever since.

I know how much fun it is to have those suckers break far from home - you're lucky you have a tow vehicle or it woulda cost big $$ to tow it that far (I finally just got the tow vehicle - looking for a trailer). If you live far from an event and may risk blowing somthing up (i.e. dragging/drifting on stock rear end etc) towing is the way to go unless you got a buddy with a flatbed :-)
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Farm supply shop caries SS lines cheap - don't forget to cover the lines anywhere they may contact somthing else (large dia fuel hose cut in small section, slit and c-tied works well) or they will saw through things. I'd love to see them replace the SS lines with coated SS lines so you don't have to worry about this - I don't know of any vendor doing this yet (I assume the coated lines cost a good bit more).
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^ a easy solution is to go head down to a electronics supply store and pick up some heat shrink and heat shrink all the braided lines.
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