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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Here is my Outlet of my turbo i have no wastegate clapet that i can weld is this a problem if im planning to run an external wastegate on my mani?

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I mean do i really need to weld something out there or i just can use this and bolt it to the rest of my exhaust.

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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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you would need to either weld the little hole shut or attach the wastegate. if you're running external the answer is obvious: weld the hole. otherwise the turbo will operate as if the wastegate flapper is always open, and you will get almost no boost at all
Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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What may i weld there? any idea?

Turbo is a GT2854R is this too small for my engine b6t bottom with a b6de head?

Planning around 250whp...
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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I suggest buying a new turbine housing.
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It's not listed, but I think that'll fit your GT2854r... they probably also have a v-band model for external gate. Call ATP and they'll set you straight. It's not cheap, but in the end, it'll be done correct.
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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or use one of these:
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Except without a gasket. Just machine the turbine exit, and mate it metal to metal. The gasket will blow out.
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Originally Posted by boisvertjean
Turbo is a GT2854R is this too small for my engine b6t bottom with a b6de head?

are you sure about that?????? Must be one of those GT28XXs with the T3 turbine housing, T3 CHRA, and T3 compressor housing......


What do the numbers on that red serial plate read?


does your turbine inlet measure 1.8" x 2.3" or 1.5" x 1.9"???
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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We've welded these shut, we just cut a piece of metal to fit, tack it in place inside the hole, then weld around.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
What do the numbers on that red serial plate read?


does your turbine inlet measure 1.8" x 2.3" or 1.5" x 1.9"???


yeah, I'd like to know this as well.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
yeah, I'd like to know this as well.
1.8 X 2.3 must be a T25 right?

Red Tags read 22413124---TBRO114H


On the turbine side it say M24 A/R 42 Next to the GARRETT
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Originally Posted by Saml01
Except without a gasket. Just machine the turbine exit, and mate it metal to metal. The gasket will blow out.

What do you mean by machining the turbine exit?
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Originally Posted by boisvertjean
1.8 X 2.3 must be a T25 right?

that's a t3 inlet size...


On the turbine side it say M24 A/R 42 Next to the GARRETT
you mean compressor? and it look just like #4 and #5 in this pic:

you have yourself a standard journal bearing T3.
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Originally Posted by boisvertjean
What do you mean by machining the turbine exit?
Machine the turbine housing flat if you use the block off plate that M2cupcar posted to avoid it leaking.

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Originally Posted by Braineack
that's a t3 inlet size...




you mean compressor? and it look just like #4 and #5 in this pic:

you have yourself a standard journal bearing T3.
Compressor sorry i have paid 400$ for this turbo and it is used worth that money? is this turbo good for my setup?
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It is if it's at least a 55 trim. Remove the compressor housing (wastegate actuator and 2 plates on back of the housing) and measure the inducer diameter.
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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ill check that and ill repost damm ive been trapt :(
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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on the compressor side i got 42mm inducer and 60mm exducer look like the gt2259 except this turbo is supposed to be free float
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that's a 50 trim.

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then? :S a bit small i think?....
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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It can output around 27 lb/min.

It will be a turbo with a compressor wheel just slightly smaller than the 2560, but a turbine wheel just slightly larger than the 2860.

It will more or less perform like a 2554, not as fast spooling, but with more power potential. IIRC Arkmage has a t3 with that trim, see his dyno plots: https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t18609/



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