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Old 02-01-2014, 08:56 PM   #81
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Be sure and let me know when the quality improves, and the lambs stop screaming.


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Be sure and let me know when the quality improves, and the lambs stop screaming.


Thats just wrong on sooo many levels my friend.
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Isn't BEGI using Chinese turbos?
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Isn't BEGI using Chinese turbos?
Begi sells multiple kits. Garrett and chinachargers. No they dont sell chinachargers claiming to be Garrett turbos.
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Ewww. That thing's pants have a wet spot.
That's hot...about as hot as the vomit that's now in my mouth.
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Ewww. That thing's pants have a wet spot.
That's hot...about as hot as the vomit that's now in my mouth.
You forced me to look at its crotch!
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:18 PM   #88
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Begi sells multiple kits. Garrett and chinachargers. No they dont sell chinachargers claiming to be Garrett turbos.
I didn't say they were. This is about Chinese parts. Everyone claims they're all bad. I was just pointing out a reputable company uses these parts on their kits and claims good reliability.
Thanks for your input though.
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Not all chinacargers are =. Pretty sure Begi found an acceptable chinese supplier and they only get their stuff from that factory.
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:50 PM   #90
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I didn't say they were. This is about Chinese parts. Everyone claims they're all bad. I was just pointing out a reputable company uses these parts on their kits and claims good reliability.
Thanks for your input though.
QFT. Nobody says they're ALL bad. We said ebay Turbo kits, specifically ITT the tacotaco 1.8 turbo kit, is a terrible kit. If you buy a quality manifold and downpipe and utilize a chinese turbo and intercooler setup, you are joining a large constituent of miataturbo members.

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QFT. Nobody says they're ALL bad. We said ebay Turbo kits, specifically ITT the tacotaco 1.8 turbo kit, is a terrible kit. If you buy a quality manifold and downpipe and utilize a chinese turbo and intercooler setup, you are joining a large constituent of miataturbo members.

GTFO.
So then the last five pages can be reduced down too, don't buy the manifolds? And as I said from the very beginning. Just give it time.

Full circle.

GTFO as you said.
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:38 PM   #92
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I only have 2 pages in this thread, and the entire first page is people flaming the noob for asking a retarded question.

It's funny how you think this is actually, like, a real conversation/discussion.
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I only have 2 pages in this thread, and the entire first page is people flaming the noob for asking a retarded question.

It's funny how you think this is actually, like, a real conversation/discussion.
Ok
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So then the last five pages can be reduced down too, don't buy the manifolds?
Or the downpipe.

Or the turbo.

Or the related components.

Believe it or not, the Chinese have multiple factories! It's a big place. And not everything that comes from China is poorly made crap! Crazy!

Some American companies will actually spend the time and resources on getting a relatively well made product to sell at a lower price point than the American/German/Japanese counterpart.

I promise you that vendors you find solely on eBay are not one of these companies. They will buy the absolute cheapest part they can find, mark it up and sell it to you. Straight from City of Industry.

But hey, don't bother listening to the old farts on here who have been there, done that, and seen them fail repeatedly for thousands of people. What do they know, right?! Experience is bullshit. I knew everything I needed for life when I was 16.
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Although your advice contradicts a lot of advice given here. So I'm not sure why you posted that.
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Because nothing in the TACOTACO turbo kit is near the standard of the Begi Shanghai kit. Thinking that buying an Ebay kit and replacing parts of it is an exercise in throwing good money after bad.

Considering the price points, there is no reason to choose taco's over Begi's. It's not as Warp Speed suggested, only the manifold that sucks.
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Or the downpipe.

Or the turbo.

Or the related components.

Believe it or not, the Chinese have multiple factories! It's a big place. And not everything that comes from China is poorly made crap! Crazy!

Some American companies will actually spend the time and resources on getting a relatively well made product to sell at a lower price point than the American/German/Japanese counterpart.

I promise you that vendors you find solely on eBay are not one of these companies. They will buy the absolute cheapest part they can find, mark it up and sell it to you. Straight from City of Industry.

But hey, don't bother listening to the old farts on here who have been there, done that, and seen them fail repeatedly for thousands of people. What do they know, right?! Experience is bullshit. I knew everything I needed for life when I was 16.
You're very presumptuous. You might want to reconsider what you think you know.

If you read my posts I was stating that the assumption that all Chinese parts are bad is wrong. Additionally what they might have wrong now will come around. There are many examples of this.

What I did not do was come in here spouting off like I know all about everything and assume that you are all ignorant kids.

I also don't feel the need to establish some kind of credibility by claiming how old I am and how much I know because of it.
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Im more of a ILOVEBURRITOBURRITO person myself. ILOVETACOTACO kits crack ILOVEBURRITOBURRITO is where its at.IMO

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I could go for a taco... I think i'm going to make fish tacos with a mango avacado salsa for dinner.
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Not all chinachargers are the same. Most are crap, some hold up, and those that hold up still don't make the power and torque that their genuine counterparts make, and don't last as long, because of design, QC, and materials.

Begi has something like a 15 day warranty on the churbos. Every single case of failure I've ever heard or read about got denied as user error. So the "reputable company" selling them with a "warranty" thing goes out the window.

THat said, I used a chinacharger on my previous setup, and it actually worked, and lasted, and I had no complaints.

I just think the statement about "in time they will improve" should be clarified with:
in time they might not be complete and utter waste of time and money, and would be at least good enough to try. I highly doubt that they will ever actually compete with their genuine counterparts. But who knows........
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