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Old 06-03-2007, 11:46 AM   #1
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I was some what using the Faq here on these forums. In fact, their bookmarked. Theres a couple pictures I cant see too good and was wondering these following questions.
A. On the block for the braided oil line, do I use the bigger bolt on the block or the smaller? And I just use THAT bolt right?
B. I cant tell where the oil return line is either. Is there an exsisting line that I use or Do I buy a new one and hook it up? Anyone have a pic of one? Or a pic of anything that would help? Thanks.
C. I have the U pipe thingy with the afm and filter on it. I dont see how anyone made enough room for it. I couldnt : / I have cruise control, ps, and ac.
I have the ebay dial boost controller, I have a diagram of how to install, but have NO clue what the pictures are represning.
ANY help at ALL would be most greatful. Thanks MT.net
And I hope you guys dont mind if i post this is M.net : /
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Also. Its a greddy TD04 Kit
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A- It's the lower of the two. The one closest to the flywheel. See here: https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/sh...0&postcount=25 (you can kinda see it in the last picture)

B- By default, Greddy expects you to use the piece of large-diameter rubber hose that the kit came with to attach to a fitting on the intake side of the engine, forward of the oil filter and below the intake manifold. It is plugged with a rubber cap, and no matter what you do you will find it nearly impossible to see. This is generally considered to be a bad idea.

Most folks here choose to drill and tap the oil pan with a 1/2" NPT thread and then install either a hose barb or a -10 AN adaptor. You can see this in the first picture on the above-referenced thread. Also, searching for oil pan tap will probably produce more info than you ever wanted on the subject. If you feel like cheating, FM's downloadable install instructions for their turbos give a good pictoral instruction on how and where to drill.

C(i)- It's ugly, but it fits. Remember, this kit was designed for a right-hand-drive car. The trick is to get some bend happening at the rubber coupler to the compressor inlet.

C(ii)- You'll need to provide more info. There is no single "eBay boost controller". As a rule however- visualize the blue hose on the turbo. One side goes to the compressor housing, the other to the wastegate can. The port on the controller opposite the **** goes towards the compressor, and the port on the side of the controller perpendicular to the **** goes to the wastegate can.

That being said, do *NOT* install the controller until the rest of your Greddy kit is installed, tested, and operating perfectly, and also until after you have made provisions for extra fueling and some decent timing control. You don't want to go turning up the boost on the stock kit.
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I dont see how more clear I could have made the oil feed:





both in the FAQ
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Brain. See how you have a black hose AND a red hose. I only have the oil return line and the steel braided line. How come you have three? Is yours water cooled?
Edited..Ok ok. after looking closer., the oil feed is the smaller bolt. and where it says, "tap here" thats for the oil return correct? when what is the other hose for? Also my braided line is just a line, i dont have all that hardware you have, do I use exsisting bolt? I dont think it had a hole trhough it?
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not my picture...yes those are water lines, don't worry about them.
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Oh ok thanks.
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Well, I saw where the return line is by the oil filter (thanks Dan). I might just get a hose for that then to tap into the oil pan : / Does anyone know if greddy sells the bolts for the steel braided oil line? I need one for the block, if not ill be probably getting a new line and bolts from Tognottis (thanks alex)
Or even a site? Couldnt find from their site. Thanks.
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Tognotti's does not sell or stock the one you are looking for. I went to them myself. You're better off getting it online.
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any clue as to what their specifically called? know where i can get em
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any clue as to what their specifically called? know where i can get em
Are you talking about the adapter that screws into the block, and that the Greddy braided hose then connects to? The threading at the block is just M10x1.5, very easy to get. The connector on the hose however is a very odd one, and I don't think I've ever heard of anybody finding a mating connector in the US.

Generally, if that connector is lost it seems the easiest solution is just to make up a whole new hose. It's pretty easy if you use -4AN to M10 banjo fittings, which are very easy to come by.
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yeah greddy uses some crazy japan standard threading on the lines.
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Tognotti's does not sell or stock the one you are looking for. I went to them myself. You're better off getting it online.
We have the fittings and line in stock (sitting on my desk waiting for slidin'miata916).......the guys on the parts counter are morons for the most part . Talk to me (Alex in wholesale) if you need anything.

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Are you talking about the adapter that screws into the block, and that the Greddy braided hose then connects to? The threading at the block is just M10x1.5, very easy to get. The connector on the hose however is a very odd one, and I don't think I've ever heard of anybody finding a mating connector in the US.

Generally, if that connector is lost it seems the easiest solution is just to make up a whole new hose. It's pretty easy if you use -4AN to M10 banjo fittings, which are very easy to come by.
-3AN would be better.....turbos don't need that much oil.

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The fitting at the block appears to be M10X1.5 to M10X0.8 if you meassure the hose side.

-3AN is what I use. I have banjo fittings on both ends of the hose since I could source the metric to AN fittings quickly enough. -3AN banjo is pretty common.
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-3AN would be better.....turbos don't need that much oil.
I expect either would be satisfactory. When I built mine, Summit happened to have all of the pieces I needed in stock in the -4 size.
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I expect either would be satisfactory. When I built mine, Summit happened to have all of the pieces I needed in stock in the -4 size.
As long as you are not blowing oil through the seals it's all good.

I know on ball bearing turbos you have to run a restrictor on -3 AN
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The greddy is -3AN line, but the fittings look to get verry narrow just before the braided line, which makes me think of them kinda having a built in restrictor, not to even mention the banjo bolt itself being very small ID.

The problem is manly this: can you locate a M10 x 1.5" to M10 to .08" adapter fitting?
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As long as you are not blowing oil through the seals it's all good.
Nope, no blowing on the Mitsu. If you get a chance, take a look at the opening on the banjo fittings some time. Those holes are extremely small. Remember that these fittings were intended for brake fluid, not engine oil. I doubt it would matter if you used -12AN line so long as that tiny little fitting is there.
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Nope, no blowing on the Mitsu. If you get a chance, take a look at the opening on the banjo fittings some time. Those holes are extremely small. Remember that these fittings were intended for brake fluid, not engine oil. I doubt it would matter if you used -12AN line so long as that tiny little fitting is there.

exactly what im saying!
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We have the fittings and line in stock (sitting on my desk waiting for slidin'miata916).......the guys on the parts counter are morons for the most part . Talk to me (Alex in wholesale) if you need anything.



-3AN would be better.....turbos don't need that much oil.
Picked up. Thanks Alex. Oil line is on, Now I need to get that cap for the return hose off.....I was out there for almost an hour trying to get it off, but its just a TITE fit. Any tricks? Tips?
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