True cost for a solid kit?
Most kits in my experience are missing something or there are hidden costs. for example, engine management is junk, drivetrain can't support the power etc. what would I really be getting into if I decided to go turbo?
My engine may need to be replace soon anyhow. I have considered a LFX swap because it is almost as cheap as a miata engine. |
Show us a kit and we can tell you what it's missing and you can figure out how much it costs to buy that stuff. Some kits are going to come with everything you need, others will need a clutch, or injectors, fuel pump, engine management, o2 sensor, gauges, exhaust, etc.
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The definition of a solid kit depends heavily on your power goals.
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Good questions.
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Originally Posted by cyotani
(Post 1157822)
The definition of a solid kit depends heavily on your power goals.
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Do you have any fabrication skills? How are your shopping skills in comparison to your research skills?
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Let's just say I would rather deal with a bolt on kit. No welding. Wiring is fine and I have a mspnp already.
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Originally Posted by scareyourpassenger
(Post 1157828)
Let's just say I would rather deal with a bolt on kit. No welding. Wiring is fine and I have a mspnp already.
FM2 no-electronics kit. Add injectors, fuel pump (maybe), and a clutch. Roll out. If i were to build another Miata from scratch and for whatever reason wanted to stay with a BP, this is exactly what i'd do. Easy and bulletproof button. I don't give a shit about the last 5-10% of performance on a street car. If i want to go faster, i throw together a bottom end and crank the fuck out of the boost. Add bigger turbo as necessary. |
^ word.
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all the info you need is on this site. Just gotta read.
If I were shooting for a reliable 220 ish whp on a budget this is what I would do: -begi s kit (call and ask for a price minus the FPR and intake cross over tube) -rebuilt sr20 turbo -ebay universal intercooler kit + whatever BOV you want -diypnp from brain +wide band + 440cc or more injectors -clutch kit -3 in exhaust (2.5 could work too) or just troll sell threads for a used kit. |
You want the simplest answer?
FM non electronics kit. Add ecu, wideband, injectors, clutch, and exhaust. Done |
Expect about $5000 spent to get 200-220whp in a reliable setup, if you do all the installation and tuning yourself.
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Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1157869)
Expect about $5000 spent to get 200-220whp in a reliable setup, if you do all the installation and tuning yourself.
I don't want to do the math on how much money the original owner+what I added cost....:facepalm: |
$500 for injectors
$500 for clutch $1000 for MS + wideband $3000 for a hardware kit from FM/Begi |
Or buy an OEM msm turbo setup, rx8 yellow injectors, ecu of your choice, 2.5 inch catless exhaust and make 220whp 240wtq at 12psi on a conservative tune. And of course a clutch to hold up.
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the oem ihi turbo system sucks and is always overpriced.
and will still bring to to about the same price using a sub-par turbo known for failing and a manifold that only accepts sub-par turbos, and a DP that's-you guessed it--sub-par. |
I love simplicity. Bolt on a Greddy and live happily everafter.
I am also fudging a bit. We've been busy creating the world's first COMPLETE 350 rwhp turbo kit for the Miata. Contents: Forged pistons Prepared and ported cylinder head Manley con rods Race bearings Gasket set Other Internals New timing belt New Water pump New intake manifold 70MM throttle body Turbo 4 into one cast ductile iron manifold Speed density engine management Suitably sized injectors Coil on plug conversion 3.0 dual parallel cat mufflerless exhaust system cork's bypass valve Remote wastegate 250 square inch paper element air filter Aluminum tubes 24 inch tube IC New bell housing New clutch, P Plate & TOB + pilot bearing T5 Super duty gearbox, special gearing, with mounts, shifter and driveshaft New 3rd member with 2.9 gears Wilwood brake systems Bilstein coil overs Four of the latest Tires Roll Bar Replacement harness with Simpson's best Delete mechanism for steering lock Quality crash helmet Oil cooler Rear thermostat kit Larger, cross flow radiator Air duct kit Innovative O2 meter Engine Oil Coolant Bosch Fuel pump Fuel cell New oil filter Transmission oil Diff oil Two days of one on one instruction at Harris Hill Track in San Marcos, Texas. Price Cobb Instructor And, I'm about to get on a roll here. So, what does 'complete' mean? corky |
Originally Posted by Corky Bell
(Post 1168439)
So, what does 'complete' mean?
When everything you order arrives? |
When all of it arrives, on time, and all the correct parts, and nothing missing, and with valid instructions, and all of it fits, and all of it works together, and there are no excuses or bs.
Hey Corky, can you ask Stephanie to familiarize herself with all these concepts? |
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