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Old 05-25-2010, 06:38 PM   #21
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According to the developer it will work on the HTC Evo 4G.

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also, the developer has always answered my questions or when i had issues, beyond fast.
+1 I sent the guy an e-mail and got a reply back in ~2 hours.
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i would contact trackmaster before you decide on a phone. a friend got an android phone and it didn't work with his.
Update: John it works on the HTC Hero now it didn't before since the Hero was running on android 1.5 which didn't work with track master. The Hero just upgraded to 2.1 wich is compatible with it.

The app needs at least android 1.6 to run.
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Is there a version of this, or something like it, for the iPhone?
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:28 AM   #24
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This looks great and I want it for my HTC hero BUT will that window mount pass tech with NASA, Trackdaze or SCCA
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I did a little poking around and it seems the knock against most of these apps is the time resolution using the phones built in GPS is on the low side. For track days it may suffice, but it's lacking for autocross. An external bluetooth GPS receiver can up the sample rate. That said, I just got my Verizon Incredible a few days ago, and I'll be downloading Trackaroo today, and will bring it to this weekend's autoX.

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That said, I just got my Verizon Incredible a few days ago, and I'll be downloading Trackaroo today, and will bring it to this weekend's autoX.
Nice I cant wait to check it out. See you Saturday Chris

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Cleaned up the thread a bit to get rid of the newb comments the subsequent newb bashing. I left ZX-tex's original iphone lap timer link, and case vagina's original iphone question.

The major problem as far as I know is that the iPhone doesn't have "real" GPS capabilities like the droid's. Oh well, fail on my part I guess, but I'm not sure how much I'd use it, especially right now.
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Of note. There is a setting in TrackMaster that allows you to do "pocket mode" for motorcyle and cart folks. If the unit is able to still get enough satellites to work... you can put it almost anywhere you want... like your pocket.
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:14 PM   #30
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Cleaned up the thread a bit to get rid of the newb comments the subsequent newb bashing.
Since when did we lay off the reminders to use the search function, especially with noobs? I bash myself (as I did above) when I forget to use it.

Shortfalls with the built-in GPS function on most any cell platform/OS can be solved with an external bluetooth GPS. In fact that is what most do (what I have done/will be doing) since the external ones have much faster refresh rates. The lap timer software packages I have seen so far are set up to use external GPS data.

The external GPS also helps with phone placement since you can put it wherever you want as long as it can still connect via bluetooth with the external GPS.
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Just a note re: External GPS

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Bluetooth GPS Service is an add-on to Trackmaster and Dynomaster. It allows both apps to use an external bluetooth GPS that supports NMEA protocol. This is a great way to support higher accuracy and higher rate GPS units. Note: HTC Incredible, Desire, Hero, and Eris do NOT support bluetooth GPS.

Latest version: 1.3 (for Android version 2.0 and higher)
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I wonder if that means Droid does. Then I could use my 5ghz one.
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Here is the discussion on the new version of Trackmaster and extenal GPS support. It looks like it works as long as you have Android 2.0 or later.
http://trackmaster.trackaroo.com/for.../message/18381


.... but there are problems with bluetooth serial protocols on HTC Android devices, and HTC is seemingly apathetic on the issue damn it...
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-foru...2201/9135.aspx

I get my HTC Evo 4G phone on Friday. I'll test it out over the weekend with Trackmaster and my Qstarz external GPS and report back. If it does not work, I am returning the phone. If it does not work that is pretty lame on HTC's part to be incompatible with a relatively standard protocol.

FWIW my current HTC Hero smartphone works with the Qstarz but it is running a Windows OS, not Android.
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Yeah, HTC didn't implement SPP on the Incredible and a few others. Maybe it'll come in a later rev.

And I just read a post that the internal GPS sample rate is 1hz, which is going to suck for autox.

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I wonder, what was HTC thinking? Did they just not get around to it or is there a problem of some sort?

Hmmm... found this in a google Android Developer's group, something about changing a UUID and it will support SPP
http://groups.google.com/group/andro...822b868b&pli=1

More discussion here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?p=6503001
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Good news - The Evo 4G is awesome
Bad news - First attempt to use the external GPS was unsuccessful.
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a note about the internal gps. at tws last month, my trackmaster app. was accurate to 0.02 hundreths of a second, comapred to my amb laptimer. so, for that, the external gps doesn't do much. where it helps is on replay of the lap on the google map of the track. the external will show a more accurate line to analyze later. but like i said previously, if i'm trying a new line, i get immediate feedback by glancing at the logging screens sector time, if it's green, it worked, if it's red, it was slower.
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a note about the internal gps. at tws last month, my trackmaster app. was accurate to 0.02 hundreths of a second, comapred to my amb laptimer. so, for that, the external gps doesn't do much. where it helps is on replay of the lap on the google map of the track. the external will show a more accurate line to analyze later. but like i said previously, if i'm trying a new line, i get immediate feedback by glancing at the logging screens sector time, if it's green, it worked, if it's red, it was slower.
Really looking forward to trying this. Debating how to mount it though. Almost thinking buying a metal case for it and bolting the lower unit to the car might be ideal. Then I just clip it in and go.
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a note about the internal gps. at tws last month, my trackmaster app. was accurate to 0.02 hundreths of a second, comapred to my amb laptimer. so, for that, the external gps doesn't do much. where it helps is on replay of the lap on the google map of the track. the external will show a more accurate line to analyze later. but like i said previously, if i'm trying a new line, i get immediate feedback by glancing at the logging screens sector time, if it's green, it worked, if it's red, it was slower.
Good to know. I ***-umed the internal would not be accurate enough for lap time accuracy.
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