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Old 10-21-2013, 12:08 AM   #21
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GREAT info guys...so I can in fact, if I decided I wanted too. Use the 02 sport brackets on the rear with my 1.6 calipers. Use sport rotors and 1.8 pads or sport pads?

So I take it the front 1.6/1.8 calipers wont bolt to the sport front brackets?
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:37 PM   #22
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Correct on the front brackets.
The 1.6 rear calipers should bolt up to the sport brackets, but I don't think I would want to pay the premium cost of sport rotors and pads. Plus, there aren't as many pad options for the sport pads. You will also have to cut the dust shield for the rear sport rotor to even fit. Since you won't be able to upgrade the front brakes, I would just sell the sport brackets and buy 1.8 brackets.
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Thanks for the input, i'll go ahead and do that the. Whats a general sale price for the sport brackets?
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Couldn't tell you. I've never looked for just the brackets.
Maybe try finding someone to trade with in the marketplace.
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You will need to be careful with that setup. 1.8 fronts + sport rears is a bit mismatched I would think.

definitely run a weaker compound in the rear...
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Old 10-22-2013, 02:11 AM   #26
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The Sport brake package has bigger rotors in the rear than in the front.

Front: 10.6"
Rear: 10.9"
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The Sport brake package has bigger rotors in the rear than in the front.

Front: 10.6"
Rear: 10.9"
Right, but he is planning to run 1.8 rotors on the front, which are 10.0". larger rotors = more leverage.

I think he will probably be ok, since the bias is pretty heavy towards the front, but I would rather be safe than sorry on a street car.
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:13 PM   #28
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Bumping this up, I was able to get the rest of the calipers so I figured I might as well just do the entire sport brake swap. Just looking for booster and master cylinder, however might be better to get the master cylinder new.

I will use blank rotors, what would you guys suggest for pads. My first track day will be in two weeks, first time just to get my feet wet, summer tires and a stock 1.8 so I wont be going very fast. Also told be the Miata guys who run the track that it isn't too hard on brakes.

I was thinking of just using the Oreilles's brand BrakeBest ceramic pads. $40 front/ $40 rear.
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:38 PM   #29
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xp8s all the way. First mod for a track car should be brake pads. You don't want to get to the last session of the last day and run out of pad...bad things happen then!
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:43 PM   #30
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defiantly not a track car, my first time out.

Also the last race of the year, so I have plenty of time to get track only pads.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:17 AM   #31
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Also, brake booster delete? For someone who doesn't have puny legs...

I know the pro's and cons, future plans call for turbo when it may become a problem.
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defiantly not a track car, my first time out.

Also the last race of the year, so I have plenty of time to get track only pads.
XP8s are not too bad to daily. they will get noisy a week or two after the track event. I ran XP8s on my first event ever. Like I said, put your mind at ease, get some moderately aggressive pads. run 1521s if you want, or some moderately aggressive hawks.
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From what I read, a lot of guys here run Carbotechs, they must be good pads.

My only concern is the price, $250 for pads that will see one trackday, then wait 2-3 months until the next track day.

I think the cheapest best option would be the Hawk HP+
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Centric StopTech brand Street Performance pads. Rock Auto. $30 something front and rear. They work great even at intermediate level with BFG Rivals.

And . . . FRESH brake fluid. I run DOT4.

BTW, your stock 1.8 brakes would have worked great for you for quite some time, especially if you are not FI.

You can always spend more if you want to.

Last edited by hornetball; 11-06-2013 at 12:06 PM. Reason: Fronts were less expensive than I remembered
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I just priced the Hp+ at $200 as well, $50 more for the XP8's

Still seems like a lot of money for 1 track use, if I can get away with dd pads that would be great. But the last thing I want is fade or failure on the track.

Sport brakes with a stock 1.8, dammit...
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Sport brakes are a bit more expensive, especially in the rotor department.
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I was going to run the centric blanks, rockauto has all 4 for $130.

Autozone/Duralast blanks cost even more at $140
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So in reality, I need a pad that will not fail on the track, summer tires, stock 1.8, first time on the track.

I would run the XP8's but that would put me at $380 just for rotors and pads. I may go try the Centric stoptech pads that hornetball suggested, seems they are the same as axis ultimate's. Come February I can buy XP8's for track only pads.
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The StopTech's superseded the ULT's. They are para-aramid, more similar to Carbotechs than ULT's.
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^ Much cheaper as well, centric blanks with the StopTech pads will put me at just over $200 shipped.
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