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Your Drunkle 11-08-2018 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Wingman703 (Post 1510182)
Those of you with the ability to watch the stream want to keep those of us that currently cannot watch the stream updated?

The live stream also has a silent ticker to show current times as well. So far the comments have done a decent job. I think Tarek Latouf just went on track.

Scaxx 11-08-2018 02:06 PM

Yeah, he just did a 1:57

jpreston 11-08-2018 02:23 PM

Live timing is also on the Race Monitor app. Subscription required but 1 month is only $0.99.

Emilio and Ryan in group A, Sonny in group B.

Schedule:

http://globaltimeattack.com/wp-conte...SLB-2-Days.pdf

Blackbird 11-08-2018 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Scaxx (Post 1510184)
Yeah, he just did a 1:57

That was in the warm up session.

flier129 11-08-2018 02:29 PM

Go faster Tarek!


Sonny consistent at 1:52s in the Shelby.

Arca_ex 11-08-2018 03:15 PM

This live stream coverage is pretty awesome.

Also the Miata that went off big at sunset, that's my tuner's son. Car makes nearly 400WHP and boatloads of torque. Apparently an issue with brakes shaking cropped up that was not there during testing, hence the off.

mx5-kiwi 11-08-2018 03:39 PM

you guys getting off air at the moment?

Arca_ex 11-08-2018 03:40 PM

They're at lunch right now according to the schedule. They should be back within 5 minutes.

emilio700 11-08-2018 03:41 PM

I have been updating the SLB specific thread. I guess they are two threads covering the same event.
..
​​​​​​ our drain back cash can overflowed. We think it's the extra lateral G's the car is pulling. Had to abort my first flyer after the second turn. Switched things around should be okay now. We'll see.

mx5-kiwi 11-08-2018 03:42 PM

Mint, thanks.

Anyone know why no times for Emilio yet?

ah i see thanks.

matrussell122 11-08-2018 04:01 PM

Hyper is looking fast out there

SKYHI Motorsport 11-08-2018 06:01 PM

Watching the stream from here in Australia. Looks hot there, what sort of temperatures do they get there?

The timing screen below the stream is very confusing. Times don't seem to be listed in any particular order?

icantlearn 11-08-2018 06:03 PM

its currently 65*F

Wingman703 11-08-2018 06:15 PM

1:48.113 for Hyper, 1:46.010 for Super at the end of session 3. Things are looking good for both members.

icantlearn 11-08-2018 06:16 PM

I was expecting way more from Super. Something was wrong for sure. I was also expecting more from ryan but its not bad by any means.

Scaxx 11-08-2018 06:17 PM

I'm guessing E is still having catch can issues as he only went out for one lap again. I'm sure he'll give an update soon.

Noble819 11-08-2018 06:24 PM

Saw some aero chunks flying off Vegas during the live stream, hopefully any damage is minimal.

SKYHI Motorsport 11-08-2018 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by MiataMan00 (Post 1510210)
its currently 65*F

Wow, heat haze makes it look a lot hotter.

Arca_ex 11-08-2018 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by SKYHI Motorsport (Post 1510209)
Watching the stream from here in Australia. Looks hot there, what sort of temperatures do they get there?

The timing screen below the stream is very confusing. Times don't seem to be listed in any particular order?

Remember that our seasons are opposite. We're coming into winter here and I don't think it ever got over 70F today. You can Google "Buttonwillow California Weather" for more info.

Also yeah the timing screen is showing results as if it's a wheel to wheel race. On the mobile app I can set it to order by best lap time. Maybe the desktop version has a button like that?

SKYHI Motorsport 11-08-2018 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1510223)
You can Google "Buttonwillow California Weather" for more info.

Yeah, I should have just done that :) It just looks hot on the live stream.


Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1510223)
Also yeah the timing screen is showing results as if it's a wheel to wheel race. On the mobile app I can set it to order by best lap time. Maybe the desktop version has a button like that?

Thanks. Just found it in the top right of the timing screen.

Love how much run off there is around the track. Hardly a wall in sight.

Blackbird 11-08-2018 07:43 PM

^ Oh don't worry, there are walls to find at BRP.

Not sure what's the wind conditions are at the track today, but it's super windy in socal currently, so that could be affecting times.

mx5-kiwi 11-08-2018 08:18 PM

is that the day over and try agan tomorrow or all done and dusted?

did we hear from Emilio what was going on in the end?

emilio700 11-08-2018 09:12 PM

Catch can issue not resolved. Won't quite make a lap at full speed before it overflows and lubricates things that don't require lubrication. We have a planned fix for tommorow.

We are discovering that we have reached the limit of aero drag for 420whp. We have more downforce than last year. A lot more. But even with a marginally better L/D ratio, we simply don't have enough power to benefit from the extra smush. The car is also still a little bit tight which gets worse as the aero comes in. So we are removing the third element in the wing and raising the rear ride height a bit.
Also removing the dive planes from the splitter. So we will drop some frontal area and get rid of the worst drag components.

Overall no one is going very fast though. Bunch of cars that were predicted to go away under 1:40, haven't. Actually no one has broken 1:40 yet. Ryan's car is working pretty well, upgraded from last year and he has not matched his PB yet. Temperatures are good, not very windy so we think the track just does not have enough rubber yet. So this year at least, I don't think Vegas is going under 1:40. I think if we can find a better downforce to drag ratio better for our power level we can probably do a 1:43.

Oh yes, we are lead URWD by about .9s right as of Saturday.

mx5-kiwi 11-08-2018 09:14 PM

Track looks incredibly dusty!

nigelt 11-08-2018 09:36 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...592e84db6c.png
4 wheels off. Nice one Tarek!

Blackbird 11-08-2018 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1510239)
Oh yes, we are lead URWD by about .9s right as of Saturday.

Go get some sleep, it's Thursday.

emilio700 11-08-2018 11:59 PM

Ryan had a brake issue. Had to stay late at the track to get it sorted. Between him, myself and John we figured out a way to do a fix with the tools we have. Ryan thinks he's got another two maybe three seconds in it so we might see a 1:45. I sure would like to see him get that record.

curly 11-09-2018 12:33 AM

Sounds extreme, but is it possible to put a pump in the drain line? Maybe PWM controlled to limit any crank case issues?

Twibs415 11-09-2018 09:41 AM

I had issues in the morning with my ignition timing, got that sorted during the practice session. Session one had a first lap flyer that put me in 4th but third isn’t looking attainable for me. Session 2 I punted the car off on a flyer as you see in that pic. Session 3 lost the alternator but still went for a flyer and took a tenth off. Grabbed an alternator last night and we are all fixed for day 2

rrjwilson 11-09-2018 09:55 AM

Website Stream with timing
Vimeo Stream (thanks Arca_ex)
Schedule (thanks jpreston)

Buttonwillow is GMT-8 for those in other timezones so using the schedule jpreston linked you can see when the lovely people of this forum getting going on a global stage.
8:45AM PST to see these folks working some magic

Group A - Emilio (Emilio700) and Ryan (ThePass)
Group B - Sonny
Group C - Tarek
There may be others I haven't read about.

Your Drunkle 11-09-2018 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by rrjwilson (Post 1510283)
I'm in UK how do i watch you folks doing this?

Edit:
Found this for those wanting to watch.
Unable to see schedule at work so don't know when the stream will go up again.

Its saying 7:50 AM in California Time.

Nevermind.

rrjwilson 11-09-2018 10:40 AM

Thank you Your Drunkle
I'd love to know who else of our folks are out there. Andrew (Savington) maybe?
I've got the Cali time linked on my phone now so I'll be ready

Blackbird 11-09-2018 10:44 AM

I'm heading out to BRP in a few minutes.

rrjwilson 11-09-2018 11:10 AM

Live stream on GTA and Vimeo are not up it seems even though timing is up.

Moti are you competing too?

Wingman703 11-09-2018 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by rrjwilson (Post 1510291)
Live stream on GTA and Vimeo are not up it seems even though timing is up.

Moti are you competing too?

Where are you seeing timing up at? I see nothing or test runs only.

Moti is not completing.

Noble819 11-09-2018 11:22 AM

This link has timing and live stream on the same page... | Live

jpreston 11-09-2018 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by rrjwilson (Post 1510283)
Stream (thanks Arca_ex)
Schedule (thanks jpreston)

Buttonwillow is GMT-8 for those in other timezones so using the schedule jpreston linked you can see when the lovely people of this forum getting going on a global stage.
8:45AM PST to see these folks working some magic

Group A - Emilio (Emilio700) and Ryan (ThePass)
Group B - Sonny
Group C - Tarek
There may be others I haven't read about.

Same video stream but with the racemonitor live timing below the video:

| Live

rrjwilson 11-09-2018 12:28 PM

Four wheels off the ground at the bus stop for Peter West holy moly

Good-Win Racing LLC 11-09-2018 01:00 PM

Too many cars off, amazing that Ryan even got the 1:50 with that much chaos.

Wingman703 11-09-2018 01:02 PM

Holy shit that was close between Ryan and the Porsche. Almost looked like the Porsche swerved in front of him?

kamel6k 11-09-2018 01:02 PM

Just saw Ryan on the dirt and Emilio score a 1:44:841

Roda 11-09-2018 01:18 PM

That session looked like the Baja 1000... lots of offs! And a long full track caution...

Good-Win Racing LLC 11-09-2018 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Wingman703 (Post 1510309)
Holy shit that was close between Ryan and the Porsche. Almost looked like the Porsche swerved in front of him?

Yep, one of our guys on the scene reports car pulled right in front of him and Ryan had to hit the dirt to avoid.

emilio700 11-09-2018 02:07 PM

Track was just slightly faster, I drove a little bit better and we have less aero drag. Still plenty of downforce though.

Looking at data compared to last year, we saw a huge increase in drag. A lot more than I expected. So we removed the dive planes off the splitter and the third element off the wing. That helped. Ghetto fix on the catch can worked so we can stay out the whole session. Yesterday I only got two hot laps. Did the 1:44.841 on my 4th hot lap of the weekend. That's time attack. You sometimes only get a few one lap shots at it.

One more adjustment to the handling balance, a bit more data coaching from Sonny, Dan and Andrew. Two more sessions to try for that 1:43 the car should has in it, according to the data.

Wingman703 11-09-2018 02:37 PM

One of the interviewies with Matt thought Ryan had a V8 coyote motor. Surprise!

Scaxx 11-09-2018 02:37 PM

Was just gonna post that lololol.

sixshooter 11-09-2018 02:42 PM

Lol, like a coyote would fit in that frame. Damn things barely fit in a mustang. So wide.

shuiend 11-09-2018 02:45 PM

Go E Go.

Arca_ex 11-09-2018 02:46 PM

Alright time for some new Miata records. 3 more sessions to do work.

emilio700 11-09-2018 03:15 PM

Raised the rear ride height 2 full rotations on the collars and went full stiff on the sway bar. Finally started to get the load mid-speed Mechanical group balance we've been looking for but the tires are starting to fall off now. 7cycles on the A7's. Went a few tenths slower than it did this morning. Some mistakes on that lap, but other spots that I drove better. So the changes we made to improve the handling balance were balanced out by the front tires falling off.

Still an excess of rear grip so we will put on a fresh set of fronts to get that last bit of balance we seek. 2 more sessions. Come on Vegas, let's do this.

Twibs415 11-09-2018 04:05 PM

Still fighting the car setup a bit. Just put a bigger gurney into my wing and we are gonna see if we can break the car into 1:55

rrjwilson 11-09-2018 04:33 PM

@Twibs415 If i'm guessing the name right did the car not hit 1:52 in the first session?

Group D C (commentator cannot count) are out but the commentator just said Emilio is out and a miata is pestering an Evo. That certainly sounds like Emilio :D Two entries?

Group be doesn't have Sonny in it now and does have a red miata who is that?

OneTwo 11-09-2018 05:12 PM

Twibs415 is Tarek Latouf. He got his 1:55 though!

rrjwilson 11-09-2018 05:19 PM

Stream audio breaks up like teenagers man

Scaxx 11-09-2018 05:23 PM

The real question is, does the audio break up more or does the announcer yell at people on the wall more?

Wingman703 11-09-2018 05:24 PM

How did they loose it there? 180 spin into the wall?

flier129 11-09-2018 05:39 PM

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rrjwilson 11-09-2018 05:45 PM

Commentator trying to say Emilio's surname was a treat for the ear. Numpty

Emilio set 1:46.749 on his last lap no less chasing camnam or namcam car (whatever way round it is the commentator has said it so much ive blocked it out).
Ryan set 1:47.387 although came in early.

Bret in Group E repping the miata too. Is he on here?

I am SO excited seeing you guys genuinely most interesting than F1

Arca_ex 11-09-2018 06:07 PM

Also Ulrik, high school kid in the red NA is into the 51's I believe.

Arca_ex 11-09-2018 06:39 PM

Twibs into the 1:54's now during his last session good work man.


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