yes good work that man

Woot woot woot!

stream dead for group b

No live stream but HERE WE GO!

Ryan is into the 46s straight away

Canjam just did a 1:38.281

Annnnnd then they went into the dirt for their final shot.

Both Ryan and E have pitted from what I can tell?

The commentator was infuriating. Struggled with names the entire time. Including saying Ryan Parsey each and every time.

He also had an unexplained interest in certain cars/drivers. And not in the "building a narrative to make the sport more interesting" way that one would as a professional announcer, but just like "okay here we go with so-and-so. Wow they are going for a hot lap!".

I dont know what you mean Mr Camera Jam or is it Mr Arse? LOL
Very biast but a good event. If only the coverage was better I'd love this

Ryan had to battle out for the win in that last session. Set a new PR and locked up the LRWD win right at the end. A nail biter

Posted a video on our Facebook page. We already had the win locked up so we tried something crazy. Put our S1 a aero on the car with the 245's but kept the flat-bottom and diffuser. the car was tight all weekend so we are trying to free it up and gain some of the top end speed we were missing. So yeah lot more top-end speed but way less grip. Way. Less. Grip. It's funny how my reference was so distorted. Driving the massive aero both days then switching to a full flat bottom, 245 A7's, S1 aero and it felt like "low" grip. So anyway the low drag experiment ended up being about 2 seconds slower. on my second flight lap I lost a rod bearing in the very last turn and coasted across the line.

Sonny was second in SRWD in our GT350.
I won URWD again in Vegas.

Dang I missed cam jams 38. I had an eye on him all day they were fast.

Then all our miata friends were strong the whole time.
Great job guys!

Congrats to all the drivers and crew. I watched the (somewhat spotty) coverage as much as I could today. Can't wait to see in-car footage. Now go cough out some of that dust.

Sucks about the rod bearing. It was cool seeing your car a few times on the live feed. Congrats on the win.

Firstly, congratulations in bringing it home for Miata-kind. Again. Whatever car you bring never fails to impress.
Secondly, do you have plans to stick with the BP engine for future TA events, or do you feel like you've hit the limit on what the BP can sustainably do in this environment? At this point you have a 110% built, low life(8-10 fliers? If that?), high boost engine, yet still note you really needed 2-300 more HP to really take full effect of that aero. Is something like a group effort with Kmiata(turbo K would make more power with more life for about the same costs, est) something you've considered, or is this too fresh on the heels of this event to consider?

I got to watch a bunch of it, and it was great to see you guys push the state of our weird art.

I'm most curious to see how your lessons learned inform the space we all occupy: how to have the maximum fun for the least dollar and time investment. Congrats & thanks for continually giving back guys.

Was watching all day, congrats to the 949 crew and Ryan for some great results.

I hate to speak for Emilio, but I really think this is the limits of the BP. I'm sure he could squeeze out...50hp? Let's say he gets a magical 500whp out of a BP, all with a usable power band. We'd all be floored, but I'm thinking with all of the aero he had with the triple element wing, splitter, and flat bottom, he'd rather have 200-300 more hp, not 50-100.

Andrew and I are already scheming a sleeved, dry sumped, EFR7163 fed 600whp motor for next year. we have been running 10W30 Amsoil Dominator forever. But that's not enough viscosity for the power levels were reaching. We are going to switch to 15W50 Dominator and see if that solves the rod bearing issue. Dry-sump will free up some additional power, allow us to lower the engine and fix the crankcase ventilation issues were having.

The flat bottom, diffuser and rear wing all worked perfectly. We just need to find a way to make a bit more front downforce with less drag. A more efficient narrower front end will do it.

The other factor is that Vegas is a tank. It's built just short of an FIA cage. Our comp weight was about 2450. The car we ran last year was about 200 pounds lighter. Vegas could run the 25 hours of thunderhill tomorrow, and it would be a far safer stiffer and better handling car than anything with a plain Spec Miata style cage. But all that is too much for time attack. The right way to do an unlimited car is to hack away everything but the bare minimum required for the rules and build tubular frame extensions. Besides building a lighter, stiffer, safer car it opens up room for packaging and aero. We have such a tub behind our shop that we have started on but it has a long road ahead of it to reach the planned goal. If things work out in 2019 we will try to finish it and take it to COTA and BRP. The goal for that car is to be under 2000 lbs with driver.

Now that would be a cool project to see. Also interesting seeing just the qualitative reaction of going from a high downforce setup to a... still-higher-downforce-than-most-Miatas setup. Ha.

Emilio did you happen to be logging oil pressure? With the new levels of sustained lateral force Vegas could achieve I'm wondering if starvation has finally started to become an issue, and if it's a possible contributor to losing that rod bearing. Or does the Prather baffle keep the pickup sufficiently covered?

We will know more once we look at the data and tear the engine down. But my Recollections from the few moments I could check the gauges were that everything looked great. We just simply ran too thin a viscosity of oil.

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Can Jam did an motor swap on Thursday night as well. And last year in 2017 both Pro Awe and Yimisport/Jager did engine swap as well. It's not uncommon in the unlimited class it seems unfortunately.

Fun "weekend". Like pretty much every other fast TA team, E and John and Dan and Sonny gave it a big moonshot effort and it (mostly) paid off. Reset the Miata lap record, again. Got the SLB URWD win, again. And, learned a ton in the process, even if that ultimate 39.xxx lap goal is still a goal. Vegas is so far out of the bounds of normalcy for the Miataverse that there were at least half a dozen "lightbulb" moments throughout the 2 days.

Also proud to say that Trackspeed hotside parts continue to power the fastest Miata in the world. :party:

When Acamas eclipsed the 450whp mark on accident, I said that a 600whp BP was totally doable, but there was no logical reason for it to exist. Now, however...

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Negative, I was there to support Ryan's effort and try to dial the car to the absolute maximum performance we could have gotten out of the hardware at hand.
I reckon that with a couple more sessions to work with we would've found even a little more, we kept improving the balance through aero and suspension adjustments, there was a little more in there.
To put Ryan's 1:46.857 LRWD winning lap in perspective, it's 2 seconds off of Emilio's monumental URWD winning lap, while being 100+ HP down and on 245 street tires. Un-freaking-real.
No better testament to the level of refinement from months of testing and tuning, careful selection of hardware, extremely detailed design work and of course - fantastic driving ability to take the car and get everything out of it.

Congrats to Emilio for winning URWD in dominating fashion and Sonny for his 2nd place in SRWD in the GT350, I'm still completely blown away by that one!

Congrats guys!!!

Dude Ryan, a 1:46.9 on Rival-S!!! Good shit man, you were wheeling it for sure.

I was confused on the last session when I saw a small front splitter on Vegas, but figured it was another "ViR" strat of ditching more and more drag. Goes to show the DiY aero is nuts lol.

Is this really a limitation of the current engine build, the turbo itself or both? I figured ~450 would be the peak of a 6258? So this warrants a 7163 as mentioned. I suppose a turbo kswap is the easier way out, but keeping with a BP keeps it within Supermiata's "wheel-house". TNtuba might chime in here, but after I read about the spun bearing on Vegas I asked him if something like his engine would be able to decently spit out ~600rwhp peak with something like a 7163, it's definitely possible... So I'm anxious to see it happen on a "TA" miata.

The perspective between Ryan's car and Vegas is key here. That shows what extensive refinement, lower drag 3D aero and much lighter comp weight will accomplish.
As tricky as Vegas looked, it is still a "blunt object", not the razor sharp knife that Hyper is.

1:46.9

In my world that resonates far more than what we accomplished with Vegas this year. and frankly that success is what drives me to build a high horsepower car. I now know if we can approach the efficiency of Hyper with the power, sequential and rubber we have, that sub 1:40 is within reach.

No anything has ever gone under 1:40 without a lbs/hp above about 4.5 lbs/hp. Vegas was at 5.8 lbs with too much aero drag for the power we have. If OGK gets built, it will be about 3.5 lbs/hp

Ryan is a supercharger away from resetting the LRWD record to something that will send a lot of people to rethink their lives.

E, forgive me for not studying the rules since I have no interest in building a $100k+ car for time attack, do the rules say you have to stay with a Mazda motor?

Would it be easier to build a beast K motor or ?

Ryan's running a Chevy engine in limited class so I'm going to say nope.

Unlimited is as the name implies- unlimited. If you can build it to their safety standards and have a sliver of OEM sheet metal hidden somewhere, it runs.

There's something really special about doing it with a Miata powerplant in unlimited. It's the ultimate underdog snub to the easybutton guys. It demonstrates a whole different level of prowess.

At some point yesterday we're all standing by the car, the hood is propped up and a few guys are looking at the engine until one of the guys exclaims: "V6?! Why would you do that?!"
So I look him in the eye and reply: "Winning. He did it to win".
:rofl:

Love that, well stated.

I was watching my buddies stream of the RS headgasket swap. I think there was 5-6 guys in that engine bay at one point..

I'd like to see a 800whp K powered Miata on a sequential box and all the aeros.

What a whirlwind! The track didn't feel as fast as it has previously. We all went in expecting slightly lower times than we found to be possible, but ultimately you just get out there and wheel it, make tweaks to find the most speed you can, and the times are what they are. That we took not only 1st in Limited RWD but also the overall win across all Limited class drivetrains speaks to the point that we made the most of the conditions we had to work with I believe.

I shredded 5th gear during a shakedown 5 days before the event so we swapped to the backup trans a couple days before SLB. Early on day 1 there was a lot of vibration coming from the driveline, so we got under the car and re-centered the driveshaft and that fixed things. First session of the day I also lost two of the strakes in my splitter. Thanks to the lessons learned at VIR I brought spare material in the trailer so I cut new strakes out of aluminum and gorilla epoxied those into place, plus a couple self-tapping screws (something I would never use in building the car but suddenly completely acceptable for a track-side fix). Those new strakes held for both days.

Last session of day 1 I had a master cylinder failure, no pedal going into cotton corners. Kept it on the track and tip-toed back to the pits. I had another MC in the spares box, the challenge was bench bleeding it with what we had on hand. Thanks to John (Supermiata), Andrew (TSE) and Moti (BFW) for contributing ideas to come up with some McGuyver ways we might be able to do it. Took a while, made longer because it was in near-freezing temps but had the MC in and bled by 11pm. Drove it around the paddock at 7 AM, pop bled it again, then bled again after 1st session and the brakes were ready to rock for the rest of the day.

Fresh tires on for day 2. 1st session of day 2 the off at Sunset was mostly due to flagger error combined with just catching Adam in the Porsche GT3 napping at the wrong moment. I was on a green flag flyer, he thought we were still under yellow. He was weaving to warm up tires as I approached at probably >60mph closing speed, he weaved left off-line which I mis-read as he saw me and was getting out of the way, then at the last moment he weaved right again in front of me. I wasn't going to stop in time so I aborted right and sent it into the dirt. No harm done to the car, good place for an off. It's always the lap that feels best when something like that happens.

Hoping we got the chaos out of the way with that session I dug in to finding some more time in the later sessions. Set a new PB with double 1:47.3's. After session 2 I wanted a little more front end bite so Moti and I cut and installed some gurneys on the splitter. That worked but almost too much with things getting loose at high speed so we added 2° of rear wing a click more low speed compression in the front shocks for the final session. I also went into the trailer and just closed my eyes and went through laps in my head for the last 15 minutes before the final session.

First hot lap of the final session showed a 1:46.95 on the AIM. Too close for comfort; sometimes the track timing doesn't agree perfectly with the AIM and I REALLY wanted that official 1:46 so I did a cool down lap to really baby the tires and then went for another one. AIM said 1:46.599, I was fist pumping in the car. Low on fuel so I pulled in to the pits and got my high five hands ready for the whole crew :) official timing said 1:46.8, I'll take it. Only later did we find out that Amir in the V8 M3 (600+hp) went 1:47.2 in that session, which would have taken the win from us if I hadn't done the 46.

At this point we need more power, which sounds silly to me when I say it, but I am foot flat on the floor A LOT of the lap. The record we're going after for LRWD was set with a very well prepped Corvette with 650+ hp. We're just fighting a seriously uphill battle on the straights in that quest to beat that record. Still, incredibly happy with what we've accomplished so far.

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Sooooooo, turbo LFx? :D

This is why the Miata has the best community :likecat:
Moving to COTA, I'd say the horsepower war has just started.

Send monies, I'll get it done :party:

Concentrate on the Ferrari engine first.

It's currently for sale.

I saw that the prize for winning limited was $500 in Fortune Auto Credit. Looks like Ryan is getting a suspension upgrade for next year... :rofl:

Those Xida triples are so 2018.

I believe I heard Ryan talked to Jerrick and is getting hooked up with a set of MeisterR GT1's. 2019 is so the year of MeisterR.

"Zetas"

On a related note
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I was not aware that you were trying to build a plane. I can say with 100% confidence that the MS devloper's do not recommend using a MS to run an airplane.

Still a ways to go, but not a bad first attempt at a Mercedes CLR impersonation.

New signature photo?

New signature photo. :party:

Maybe this isn't appropriate to post in here. But i'm going to anyway.


Rules. :)

It's painfully obvious they didn't bother reading the rules, and being the first EV, tech inspectors weren't thinking about the rule that the protest was based on either. The rule was written when EV's weren't even a thing, and they will be updated for 2019, but they are not ones to do mid season rule changes to accommodate people, say like Gridlife lol.

They definitely capitalized on the DQ though. They were offered to be moved to a class where the car was currently legal per the rules, but opted to take the DQ instead.

They even had another guy go out in the car to set times even though in Enthusiast class the driver must be on the car's registration. That right there is enough to tell me they only skimmed the rules at best, and the rule they got DQ'd on I would have definitely emailed the tech steward about prior to showing up at the track.

They got DQ-ed for "electricity is not listed as an approved fuel", but there is no requirement that it uses "fuel". Car was not as heavily modified as many others in the class and being DQed because not using something that is regulated but not mandatory seems like a case of serious "butt hurt". Poor management and rule application on the part of organizers.

Marriam Webster:

fuel

noun, often attributive
fu·​el \ˈfyü(-ə)l \

Definition of fuel

1a: a material used to produce heat or power by burning
b: nutritive material
c: a material from which atomic energy can be liberated especially in a reactor
2: a source of sustenance or incentive : REINFORCEMENT

Cambridge dictionary:
fuel noun [ C/U ]
US ​ /ˈfju·əl, fjul/
​a substance such as oil or gas that is used to provide heat or power, usually by being burned

Cool. So which fuel did it use to produce the electricity again?

Solar?

How do you know it wasn't nuclear? Is plutonium an exotic fuel? Do you see where I'm going with this?

How do you know it's not a hamster in tiny wool socks in a hamster wheel made of amber? The rules don't say the car can't be under electric power, they just say that fuels can be of certain kind.