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Old 09-03-2012, 03:06 AM   #41
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I'm fighting to drop down into TTD with my NA swap, but it's looking like TTC.
With 170whp? Uh, yeah, that's a TTC car.
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Isn't that assuming Hustler ends up with 170rwhp, Sav, and not say 150?
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He has to take points for his 6-speed, BBK, and the front air dam, AND 225 nt-01s. TTD isn't going to happen, even at 150whp.
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Thanks for the input guys. I bought this car to race against vettes, so that's nothing new, but I'm guessing the competition is much better down there, despite the fact that the cars will no longer be unlimited.

I was planning on doing the same thing as Zefiris (I also made 220whp last time the car was on a dyno) and shoot for TTA* since, after the negative points for tire size, it puts me in a better position than starting at TTB**

Also, apparently NASA won't recognize my SCCA TT license. It sounds like I'll have to do some HPDE's to get signed off. yay.

I'll be working just west of Bush airport, still not sure where I'll be living (see my other thread) I should be down there by the end of the month.
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Also from what we've heard - GG has never base classed a miata in TTA. Anyone hear different?
That's stupid that Nasa won't recognize your SCCA license...
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:00 AM   #46
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Also from what we've heard - GG has never base classed a miata in TTA. Anyone hear different?
That's stupid that Nasa won't recognize your SCCA license...
Did you see Zefiris' post on the previous page? or am I misunderstanding something here? It sounds like he got reclassed into TTA*

The license thing is understandable I guess. SCCA TT is point by passing, NASA TT is open passing. It sucks, but a couple HPDE's will give me some time to get to know the system and classing before I start making changes to the car to try and fit into a class. I've got a bunch of old tires laying around, it looks like they will be good for something after all
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All you need is a check-ride to get the license, no big deal.
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He has to take points for his 6-speed, BBK, and the front air dam, AND 225 nt-01s. TTD isn't going to happen, even at 150whp.
I can run probably run TTC at full power but I'll need a TTD** base-class.
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Did you see Zefiris' post on the previous page? or am I misunderstanding something here? It sounds like he got reclassed into TTA*
Hey - watta ya know - My bad, myth busted
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Hey - watta ya know - My bad, myth busted
Greg won't base-class a Miata in TTA, at least one * is required. It gives us too many tire points.
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I think Gene just meant TTA in general, not specifically TTA without *'s

But still, its ridiculous that they won't class us in base TTA anyways. We are being penalized for using too small of tires? If the negative points for using smaller tires are too excessive they should change the rules, not penalize a specific car just because it happens to take advantage of those rules.
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Yep, I've been running TTA* the past 1.5 years. There's a pair of M3s that usually beat me by a second or so, but the rest of the field is usually over a second behind me. Fun trying to catch them at least.

Those M3 guys said Greg gave them the same quote about small tires, so they both had to do the TTA* when they moved up from B this season.

Handy - Your points are right on. I have all the same mods except the big brakes and I'm +18 on my classing sheet. I'd move up to TTS as well, but the wallet isn't ready for the jump. Also, TTA here(Arizona) usually has 4-8 people running each event. TTS is hardly anyone, only one person this last event.

We have two FI miatas here in TTD. They are both in the 140whp range. No clue on how many mods and such though.
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Thanks Zeferis. I guess I'll have to go with 205 R6's to stay in TTA... on the bright side that's the spec miata size, so they are cheap!
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Screw this ****, just go wheel to wheel in ST-2....that's where I'm playing next year!
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Screw this ****, just go wheel to wheel in ST-2....that's where I'm playing next year!
Did ya notice the new car in your sig is at the bottom of every page on MT.net?
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Uh...now I did!
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Thanks Zeferis. I guess I'll have to go with 205 R6's to stay in TTA... on the bright side that's the spec miata size, so they are cheap!
Cheap R6s, now that is an oxymoron! So what do they go for, or are you buying takeoffs?
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I was planning on getting them new... but I bet if you knew the right people you could get 1 race old takeoffs from the spec miata guys. I know the front runners never re-use a set of tires.

New, the spec miata R6's (actually called SM6, but are the same as R6's) are $166, compared to $242 for 225 R6's & $164 for 225 NT-01's

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So looks like TTA/PTA classes might be going away for next year. Just heard about this on the local forum which pointed me to -

nasaforums.com • View topic - ST3 Re-visited

After reading that thread, I'm still have no clue why they want to make an ST3 class. This affects TTA because it will follow the same rules as the new ST3 so that people can run time trials and race group with the same car. Essentially, it changes PTA/TTA to follow the same rules as the TTS/U/R classes. Unlimited mods with only power/weight ratios, modified based on weight and tires. It'll just be a slightly more restricted power/weight, they are discussing something between 9.5-10, where TTS/ST2 will be bumped down to ~8.0.

I choose to limit myself to TTA because it was points based. You get to your mod limit much quicker. SUR is a spending war with near unlimited mods.

So now the decision is the lower power to get to TTB, or upgrade the limit on my credit card. I could run the new unlimited mods TTA as is and do pretty good regionally, but nationally I'll be a moving slalom if competing against unlimited budget cars.
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Also, watching one of the shows for the nationals, they mentioned Toyo's new tire, the RR.

Phils Tire Service Toyo Proxes RR

The only review I could find said they were a touch faster than R6s, but lasted longer. Might just be marketing propaganda though since the tire is so new. They are cheaper than R6s at least.
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