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Old 06-12-2012, 11:13 PM
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I have thought about buying a Defender but everyone convinced me out of it. There is a reason NASCAR and other top racing divisions use HANS, because it is the safest thing around. Might aswell spend the $150 extra or whatever it is for a HANS. That's my .02
Licensing.. Defnder is cheaper, adjustable, and cheaper to recertify.
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I have heard different stories about both products. Being a dirt tracker everyone uses some type of HANS/Defender. Everyone leans towards hans, but I have had 2 or 3 people say the Defender works better than a HANS. I have been very undecided which one I want, that's why I still run that stupid foam neck brace
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Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports
I have thought about buying a Defender but everyone convinced me out of it. There is a reason NASCAR and other top racing divisions use HANS, because it is the safest thing around. Might aswell spend the $150 extra or whatever it is for a HANS. That's my .02
That's an argument for another thread. The bits and pieces I remember are that there's quite a bit of controversy with the HANS device. Along the lines of it being like the iphone. Everyone thinks it's the only thing on the market that will do what's it's designed to do.
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do you have the option of trying on friend's suits? I tried on a few of the lower end sparco's and then tried on a few of the starter Alpine Stars. They all fit differently in their own way. I liked the stretch material on the lower back, and some of the other suits were tight in the shoulders. I'm a small framed 5'10 - 5'11 185lb fatass. I ended up with a 56 GPT . I had to have the legs hemmed almost 2 inches. The GPT just felt less restrictive during ingress/egress and during arm movements.

I have a FAST large. Fits well everywhere including my small gut. Scrawny friend of mine has the Medium and it looks like a child's shirt.
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That's an argument for another thread. The bits and pieces I remember are that there's quite a bit of controversy with the HANS device. Along the lines of it being like the iphone. Everyone thinks it's the only thing on the market that will do what's it's designed to do.
Just stating my opinion curly, I have done much research and have talked to a lot of people, I was seconds away from buying a defender but backed out of it so I am not knocking it or anything, people changed my mind towards the HANS
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do you have the option of trying on friend's suits? I tried on a few of the lower end sparco's and then tried on a few of the starter Alpine Stars. They all fit differently in their own way. I liked the stretch material on the lower back, and some of the other suits were tight in the shoulders. I'm a small framed 5'10 - 5'11 185lb fatass. I ended up with a 56 GPT . I had to have the legs hemmed almost 2 inches. The GPT just felt less restrictive during ingress/egress and during arm movements.

I have a FAST large. Fits well everywhere including my small gut. Scrawny friend of mine has the Medium and it looks like a child's shirt.
I have a buddy who is a newt (Johnwag) with an A* suit and that's it. He weighs like 140lb, lol. Karting with him is a real blast.

I have a 31" waist, I'm 5'11", I weigh 199lb today, and I'm at 910lb on squat/dead/bench...nothing is going to fit me. I basically need something I can get my shoudlers and quads in. I'm not jacked or anything, but nothing fits right.
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Try this hustler, back when I was 200lbs this fit great! Now I have a custom fit firesuit made specifically for my body at 155lbs

http://daymotorsports.com/proddisp.php?ln=15055
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A bit late to the game.. but you will want a cool shirt. Much appreciated even at 60-70*'s for a two hour stint.

Also, you do know about the SR discount codes right? They don't apply to all items but it should save you some money.
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Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports
Just stating my opinion curly, I have done much research and have talked to a lot of people, I was seconds away from buying a defender but backed out of it so I am not knocking it or anything, people changed my mind towards the HANS
The HANS is more expensive to buy, almost 3x the cost to recert, requires special belts, and the shoulder part is thinner. The Defnder is cheaper, cheaper to recert, I can use 3" belts, and it won't cut into my shoulders. Both have the SFI cert so I expect both to perform up to the standard. What else is there?
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Originally Posted by stormin'norman
A bit late to the game.. but you will want a cool shirt. Much appreciated even at 60-70*'s for a two hour stint.

Also, you do know about the SR discount codes right? They don't apply to all items but it should save you some money.
I do not, please PM me the secret code.
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Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports
Try this hustler, back when I was 200lbs this fit great! Now I have a custom fit firesuit made specifically for my body at 155lbs

http://daymotorsports.com/proddisp.php?ln=15055
Do you know anywhere in DFW that stocks this stuff so I can try it on?
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I do not, please PM me the secret code.
Sent. I believe it is not applicable to Sparco and Hans products. Should help you out elsewhere.
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Where is the compromise in the G Force suit compared to the Sparco? Why is the Sparco 150% the price? By the G Force sizing chart I'd need an XL for my chest, and a small for my waist and inseam.
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Originally Posted by stormin'norman
Sent. I believe it is not applicable to Sparco and Hans products. Should help you out elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by hustler
Where is the compromise in the G Force suit compared to the Sparco? Why is the Sparco 150% the price? By the G Force sizing chart I'd need an XL for my chest, and a small for my waist and inseam.
I use a gforce 525 3 layer for Chumpcar. It's no Alpinestars.. and doesn't match any of my gear but it was cheap and I trust it. I also wear A*'s nomex bottoms under with a cool shirt up top. Again, no style points won in the pits but it gets the job done.

Oh and another hint.. They have factory color defect Gforce 525 3 layer suits on ebay for next to nothing.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=...cing&_osacat=0

That is if you are a XS, S, M or XL. Larges don't pop up very often.
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I'm at 5"' 11" and 200# and an XL Gforce suit fits me.
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I have the sparco sprint 6 suit and love the hell out of it. Before, I was using the pyrotect single layer suit with nomex underwear and while it served it's purpose, it felt very rigid. The sprint 6 suit is very light and breaths a hell of a lot better.

I see no reason not to use a DEFNDER. I have one and it is comfortable. I echo everything you have said about it being a little bit better in several ways from the HANS.

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I even have the horrible free hat still!
I wear that hat almost every day. At first it was terrible, because of the little piece in the lining right at the forehead, but after a week that went away. It is super comfy now.
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Originally Posted by rharris19
I have the sparco sprint 6 suit and love the hell out of it. Before, I was using the pyrotect single layer suit with nomex underwear and while it served it's purpose, it felt very rigid. The sprint 6 suit is very light and breaths a hell of a lot better.

I see no reason not to use a DEFNDER. I have one and it is comfortable. I echo everything you have said about it being a little bit better in several ways from the HANS.



I wear that hat almost every day. At first it was terrible, because of the little piece in the lining right at the forehead, but after a week that went away. It is super comfy now.
What size was that Pyrotec suit that I was wearing. The one that I needed help to get out of, with the huge belly area, that cut my nuts. lol


Thanks for the input everyone, I need to order soon because it appears the 2013 line is coming in and I want to be sure I get the suit I want rather than a deal on a suit I don't want.
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Originally Posted by hustler
What size was that Pyrotec suit that I was wearing. The one that I needed help to get out of, with the huge belly area, that cut my nuts. lol
That is a large I believe, but their sizing has always seemed a little off to me. Our XL helmet from them fits like a damned M.
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The cool suit shirts are "hanes beefy-t" brand. They don't stretch at all because of the piping though.

You may have to size a bit larger to be able to get into it. I believe mine is a M and I'm 60lbs lighter and it takes some contorting to get it on due to the lack of stretching.
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