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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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not air piston jacks. WRC cars have reinforced cylindrical holes in the sides and their jacks have pins that insert into them.
Yup, Google wrc tire change or something or wrc jacks. Some gt1 style air jacks would be dope though
Old Feb 3, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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Hey "cordycord" is your undertray just to fit under the engine or is it also a splitter also. The resin I'm asking is because, I'm going to finish my underbody when I get back and I'm going to have the front section in 3 pieces. The front undertray, a 3" airdam and the splitter. What thickness are you running on the undertray, because I was thinking of using Alumalite for it.
I'm using aluminum sheet only. It doesn't extend beyond the bodywork so I'm not concerned about ultimate stiffness. I forget the thickness.

At present there's no tray under the engine.
Old Feb 3, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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The only thing about air jacks is that they are so expensive as a kit, but since I am a hydraulics guy that works on C-130's I don't think it would be hard to make a air system for a car.

cordycord-- Ok I working with .063 and I might use it under the engine or use the rest of my 5x12 sheet to make duct work for air in the rear wheel wells.

Any have the measurements from the widest the front bumper gets and from the steering rack to the edge of the front bumper
Old Feb 3, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePass
I don't think anything developed for the catfish is going to transfer over to a miata with anything less than pretty much a total redesign.
You're just down the street in San Diego...maybe we'll need to check it out with your car.
Old Feb 6, 2013 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cordycord
sandwich material under and over the underbody so it doesn't buckle, and so the jack doesn't walk. Without going into too much detail, easy peazy.
Yep. That's pretty much what factory flat bottom cars do. Some tube frame cars just weld on a jacking puck and drill a hole for it in the undertray.

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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Is it a new hardtop? Nope its the new splitter Im building. I guess you gotta get it home some how lol


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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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Here are some more pics from today







Splitter mounts



More pics to come
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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Looking good but two queries:

1. Is the flat floor held with screws/bolts/dzus into the frame rails?

2. Have you taken heat into consideration? It looks like you're covered front to back with no airflow for the gearbox or diff.
Old Apr 14, 2013 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by koan123
Looking good but two queries:

1. Is the flat floor held with screws/bolts/dzus into the frame rails?

2. Have you taken heat into consideration? It looks like you're covered front to back with no airflow for the gearbox or diff.

1. Yes bolts and Dzus Fasteners

2. I am still working on that


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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 1993ka24det
In this pic, are we looking at the top side or bottom side? That is, are the vents bringing air into the enginebay/underbody? Or releasing air from behind the rad?

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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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they are front diffusers. they are doing neither, not bringing air nor releasing it. They are used to help channel air between the wheel and wheel well/feed brake ducts.
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In the morning I will take some more pics, so you can get a better idea
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Here are some more pics, but still not complete

I got the temp of the diff after a hour drive 142 Deg F













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I'm going to be building a flat underbody for my miata within the next few weeks, but I have a few questions before I dive into this whole process.

1) My biggest issue is where and how you guys are mounting the panels? I was thinking of mounting the panel over the outside of the frame rails and then on some of the bracing but some more insight on this particular topic would be much appreciated.
2) I see some people having the entire underside covered while others have a channel for the exhaust. What are the pros/cons to each one? If I decide to cover the entire underside, would I have to bend the panel in order to fit over the exhaust or what?
3) What material are you guys using? I've read that 2mm 5052 aluminum is perfect. Is this the correct thickness/grade aluminum?

I'm sure I'll have some more questions once I dive into the process, but this is all I can think of at them moment.
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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Would it be safe to drill 5 holes on each frame rail and weld round base weld nuts onto them (with the long part up inside the rail and the round base welded on the bottom of the rail)? I have yet to see someone do this, so maybe there's a reason why?
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I did mine that way.
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Originally Posted by ApexAddict
I'm going to be building a flat underbody for my miata within the next few weeks, but I have a few questions before I dive into this whole process.

1) My biggest issue is where and how you guys are mounting the panels? I was thinking of mounting the panel over the outside of the frame rails and then on some of the bracing but some more insight on this particular topic would be much appreciated.
2) I see some people having the entire underside covered while others have a channel for the exhaust. What are the pros/cons to each one? If I decide to cover the entire underside, would I have to bend the panel in order to fit over the exhaust or what?
3) What material are you guys using? I've read that 2mm 5052 aluminum is perfect. Is this the correct thickness/grade aluminum?

I'm sure I'll have some more questions once I dive into the process, but this is all I can think of at them moment.
Originally Posted by ApexAddict
Would it be safe to drill 5 holes on each frame rail and weld round base weld nuts onto them (with the long part up inside the rail and the round base welded on the bottom of the rail)? I have yet to see someone do this, so maybe there's a reason why?
1. Mounting it to the frame rails seems like the best bet. On Ryan's car, he initially welded tabs to the frame rails to hold his underpanel.
2. Covering the whole underside would yield the best results, but you'd have to deal with heat from the trans/exhaust/diff. A few well place NACA ducts to feed air into the hot parts would be enough.
3. Material is all up to you. 5052 bends very well if wanted that. CF/foam/nomex core, alumalite are also good choices.
4. I don't see why that wouldn't work, actually I think Moti's underpanel on Morpheus is mounted this way.
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Originally Posted by Blackbird
I did mine that way.
Right on, how many did you do on each frame rail and what size did you use? If you don't remember it's not big deal, I'm assuming the size of the weld nut isn't THAT important right?
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1. Mounting it to the frame rails seems like the best bet. On Ryan's car, he initially welded tabs to the frame rails to hold his underpanel.
2. Covering the whole underside would yield the best results, but you'd have to deal with heat from the trans/exhaust/diff. A few well place NACA ducts to feed air into the hot parts would be enough.
3. Material is all up to you. 5052 bends very well if wanted that. CF/foam/nomex core, alumalite are also good choices.
4. I don't see why that wouldn't work, actually I think Moti's underpanel on Morpheus is mounted this way.
Right on! Thanks for the advice. I was definitely planning on doing NACA ducts to all 3 mentioned heat spots. What I'm curious about, is the fact that my exhaust seems to be lower than my frame rails. How do people get around this? I'm not 100% positive but i'll have to double check.



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