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Old 03-12-2018, 08:17 PM   #1  
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Hey guys, have any of you checked this out yet? Seems like a really nice/ inexpensive aero option. Almost as light as carbon, and they designed it to bolt up to Singular's uprights. I'm currently running a BBFW spoiler but would like to move up to something with a better drag/downforce ratio. Sub $400 for a 64" wing without mounts. What do you guys think?

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I saw that when they just posted up on FB.

Does Singulär even sell the uprights separately?
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Wish you posted this 4 hours sooner. I just pulled the trigger on the bfw spoiler on my lunch break
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I saw that when they just posted up on FB.

Does Singulär even sell the uprights separately?
they are not sold separately


I was just going to post this wing on here. I wonder how it compares to the apr gt250
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Super pumped for this. Johnny mentioned the Elan wing in my dumbass post about cheap wings, and then he went ***** to the wall coming up with this. Can't wait to get mine. Still gotta figure out how to get the Singular uprights without a wing... I might give them a call tomorrow to see if that's a possibility. And I want to figure out a gurney flap for it, the slot for it is a pretty trick design.

For those of you with home made endplates, what material/thickness did you use? Emilio complained about the wet carbon endplates on Bullet, so dry carbon is obviously the ticket... just not sure how thick is needed.
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i've seen some use .09" aluminum for endplates
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Very excited about the wing option, but singular uprights are not being sold seperately per what I'm reading on BookFace.
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Very excited about the wing option, but singular uprights are not being sold seperately per what I'm reading on BookFace.
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I saw that when they just posted up on FB.

Does Singulär even sell the uprights separately?
Has anyone actually confirmed with Singulär? They have certainly sold 'not on the menu' parts before. It would be a real bummer if not. Their APR setup is gorgeous, but out of reach for me. This seems doable... I can make uprights myself, but I like having the easy button option.
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it was confirmed. Not sold separately
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it was confirmed. Not sold separately
Well ****. That's too bad. I'm kinda surprised and not surprised at the same time. Thanks for confirming.

-Added make uprights to my ever growing list of things I need to do. This wing is just too cheap for me to pass up. I caught air twice at my last autox. I need aero (and to tweak suspension)
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Apparently they will sell a full kit. So stands and endplates for $470. But not stands by themselves.
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Apparently they will sell a full kit. So stands and endplates for $470. But not stands by themselves.
Not bad. I'd be getting bigger end plates than it comes with anyways
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it comes with singular endplates tho??
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it comes with singular endplates tho??
I meant bigger end plates than the wing comes with from 9 Lives.

The Singluar plates seem plenty big to me.
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oh. I guess it seems as though they were shipping out the singular ones with the kit.
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Apparently they will sell a full kit. So stands and endplates for $470. But not stands by themselves.
To clear things up, we do not offer any portion of our wing kit separately. We had one person this last week contact us who confirmed they had a GT-250 airfoil at correct measurements/specs so we priced him our kit without the airfoil. We don't normally offer those pieces a la carte and it's possible that person what just trolling us for a price. Our wing kit is an extremely efficient package with significant downforce potential and premium quality top to bottom. We tested and developed our package for over a year before bringing it to market. When you buy our kit you know exactly what you're getting. Lap times drop by seconds and it wins races. The wing discussed here is a complete unknown product jumped into taking orders with as yet zero meaningful testing done on a production car chassis. The one real world sample of it being used on a Miata shows no significant improvement over a GTC-200 mounted high in the airstream (which is about as draggy as a school bus so a very low benchmark). We have not yet seen anything to suggest that this is an airfoil we would want to run ourselves, and that alone is the most significant litmus test here for whether a prospective product is something we want to pursue or support.
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taken from 9 lives site
"Measurements were provided by Elan Motorsports, as tested in CFD software at 70" and while mounted on the back of an NP01 for realistic numbers. no gurney flap attached. "

sounds like it did not have a miata involved in any testing. An NP01 is a lot different than my NA, making the numbers seem...unrealistic. my two cents.

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No disrespect to Ryan and Singular, but this is a game changer for me. We race in ChampCar, which has a No Carbon Elements rule, which left us in the situation of either Foam Core/Glass or a 3d printed wing.
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Ryan, I got that info from someone who posed on the FB thread. Your wing package is superior. I don’t think anyone is trying to say otherwise.
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