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Blkbrd69 01-13-2021 07:44 PM

One thing I have noticed missing from several photos.
You need to rubber mount...

Blysccr 01-18-2021 09:04 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...bceabe2ebb.jpg
Setrab/earls 16 row
banjo 90° fittings running to thermostat plate
-10 lines

thoughts?

can’t upload pic. Trying...

Downmented 05-04-2021 09:29 AM

@Savington do you not sell the oil cooler kits anymore?

Or does someone have a PN for the correct sandwich plate with t-stat?

DNMakinson 05-04-2021 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Downmented (Post 1599249)
@Savington do you not sell the oil cooler kits anymore?

Or does someone have a PN for the correct sandwich plate with t-stat?

@doward Picked up some of TSE line.

shuiend 05-04-2021 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Downmented (Post 1599249)
@Savington do you not sell the oil cooler kits anymore?

Or does someone have a PN for the correct sandwich plate with t-stat?


Shoot me an email. I can get you hooked up.

Cory M 05-05-2021 11:44 AM

Pegasus auto racing sells the Setrab 180 degree thermostat, part number SET-SPT76-20-180-22. That's what I used.

Socals14 09-28-2021 11:41 AM

Any suggestions on sizing a Setrab Series 1? Perhaps a 34 or 44 row, oriented on it's side, is the route I want to go. Mostly a street car that sees monthly autocross with sporadic HPDE. I do plan to do more HPDE after install. Thoughts appreciated.

emilio700 09-28-2021 05:22 PM

Vegas uses a 1 series Setrab. We find packaging is much easier having the I/O closer together. Anecdotally, more rows that are shorter tend to be more thermally efficient than fewer, longer rows and have less pressure drop.

We have switched to 1 series whenever the packaging allows it.

Ted75zcar 09-28-2021 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1609647)
Vegas uses a 1 series Setrab. We find packaging is much easier having the I/O closer together. Anecdotally, more rows that are shorter tend to be more thermally efficient than fewer, longer rows and have less pressure drop.

We have switched to 1 series whenever the packaging allows it.

seconded

Cory M 09-29-2021 11:18 AM

I used the same:

SET-125-7612 Setrab Series 1 Oil Cooler, 25 Row, M22 Ports

Socals14 09-29-2021 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Cory M (Post 1609692)
I used the same:

SET-125-7612 Setrab Series 1 Oil Cooler, 25 Row, M22 Ports

25 row, eh? What kind of ambients do you see? Has the 25 worked well for track work?

thebeerbaron 09-29-2021 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1609647)
We have switched to 1 series whenever the packaging allows it.

And I have benefited from that switch - thanks for the cheap 6 series!

I'd just note that for a mostly-street car, you're probably splitting hairs here unless you're generating a lot non-standard heat. The pressure and cooling differences between different arrangements are probably moot as long as you're not at one extreme or the other of rows vs length.

My $0.02.

Socals14 09-29-2021 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by thebeerbaron (Post 1609702)
And I have benefited from that switch - thanks for the cheap 6 series!

I'd just note that for a mostly-street car, you're probably splitting hairs here unless you're generating a lot non-standard heat. The pressure and cooling differences between different arrangements are probably moot as long as you're not at one extreme or the other of rows vs length.

My $0.02.

You're probably right...I usually try my best to build in a little head room. Never know where a build will go!

thebeerbaron 09-29-2021 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Socals14 (Post 1609706)
You're probably right...I usually try my best to build in a little head room. Never know where a build will go!

As a champion over-thinker, I agree with building in headroom. The reality I've discovered though is that by the time you start needing that headroom, some other thing has come up which sends you in a different direction. Witness - "I love how reliable this car is on track, so let me completely replace the drivetrain because I'm tired of being passed down the straight by aggressive butterflies" -> well, I'm in there anyhow -> $$$.

Cory M 09-30-2021 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by Socals14 (Post 1609694)
25 row, eh? What kind of ambients do you see? Has the 25 worked well for track work?

I only had it on for a few events before i sold the car, but it made a huge difference. Flogging it hard for 20-25 min sessions in 90deg weather the oil temp peaked at 240f (1.8 na).

Socals14 09-30-2021 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Cory M (Post 1609763)
I only had it on for a few events before i sold the car, but it made a huge difference. Flogging it hard for 20-25 min sessions in 90deg weather the oil temp peaked at 240f (1.8 na).

Just to be clear - this was a non-turbo application?

Cory M 10-01-2021 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Socals14 (Post 1609794)
Just to be clear - this was a non-turbo application?

Yes, I said "na" but I see how that is confusing on a Miata forum :)

Socals14 10-29-2021 01:58 PM

I asked this question on the FB group, and only got one or two responses. Although discussed here are there in this thread, I was looking for thoughts on 180 vs 205 degree thermostats. I am tempted to purchase a 205 given I have a street car that will see autox regularly and hpde around 4-5 times a year. Thoughts?

SuperTuner12010 02-28-2022 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Socals14 (Post 1611706)
I asked this question on the FB group, and only got one or two responses. Although discussed here are there in this thread, I was looking for thoughts on 180 vs 205 degree thermostats. I am tempted to purchase a 205 given I have a street car that will see autox regularly and hpde around 4-5 times a year. Thoughts?

Not sure if Socals14 was talking about water thermostat or oil, but I am asking the oil thermostat question. From what I remember reading but now can't find is that it was to use the 205d thermostat for the Mocal sandwich plate. I can't find any vendor selling the Mocal with anything other than the 180f, also searched for the thermostats used in the Setrab and couldn't find an alternative. The only alternative would be the 200f Mishimoto unit. I'm not a fan of Mishimoto myself so I wanted to see what everyone else has been doing recently. Thanks

EO2K 02-28-2022 11:16 PM

Try Bat-Inc for 205° Mocal things. https://www.batinc.net/

Another option that I don't see mentioned much is Improved Racing.
https://www.improvedracing.com/

I have parts from both companies, both are miles better than anything Mishimoto I've ever owned, seen, used or handled. IMO you are right in avoiding that particular brand.


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