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Old 07-24-2013, 02:14 PM   #41
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Meanwhile, SM fastest lap time in 2012 at MidO was a 1:43 and PTE was 1:41.684 in a Honda CRX
lol @ PTE only being 1.5sec faster than SM. This year's PTE field is in for a surprise
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Color me shocked.
You are a colored.
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Guys, please take this as a joke. Seriously, don't get butthurt...

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lol @ PTE only being 1.5sec faster than SM. This year's field of nobody's is in for a surprise
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Also, LOL at Mr. Rules know-it-all Savington getting PWNd by a girl who he ASSumed knew nothing because she has <300 posts. Little did he know she's been racing in NASA for years...

Again, just in jest
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Sadly, it looks like there won't even be a PTF or TTF class to run this year at Nationals :(

MidOhio had a better F class turnout in 2011 and 2012... ...we ran TTF in 2011 and PTF in 2012 but sold the G20 so we won't be running in F class with that car any more and the new owner is about to take Comp school with it in August (So I seriously doubt he will go to Nationals this year with it regardless)
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Also, LOL at Mr. Rules know-it-all Savington getting PWNd by a girl who he ASSumed knew nothing because she has <300 posts. Little did he know she's been racing in NASA for years...
I didn't assume anything about her. I assumed Greg would rule a certain way, and he didn't. It won't be the last time he surprises me.

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Nobody really gave a **** when you shared your opinion on the depth of NASA PT fields the last time you gave it, so I'm genuinely curious as to why you thought anyone would give a **** this time. If you think it's such an easy win, why don't you rent a car and bring it to Miller? It won't be the first time I'll have beaten you in a NASA Championship race.

And don't take this the wrong way or anything, but you're an egotistical *****.

You know, just in jest.
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wow.. what just happened here?



...but anyway, off to MidO we go for the weekend......

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Sadly, it looks like there won't even be a PTF or TTF class to run this year at Nationals :(

MidOhio had a better F class turnout in 2011 and 2012... ...we ran TTF in 2011 and PTF in 2012 but sold the G20 so we won't be running in F class with that car any more and the new owner is about to take Comp school with it in August (So I seriously doubt he will go to Nationals this year with it regardless)
F is kind of a cool class from a technical/car building standpoint, but if you're looking at building an F car vs. an E car, the E car isn't going to cost significantly more to get you into a faster car with better fields.

What most surprises me about the Nats fields this year is the lack of front-drivers in E. We've rendered the Rx7s obsolete in E (they all moved to D, actually), but I was expecting to see at least SOMETHING that wasn't a Miata in PTE
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^ meanwhile I find it interesting how many Miata's are either leaving SM OR being built as just E cars!
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^ meanwhile I find it interesting how many Miata's are either leaving SM OR being built as just E cars!
E is an awesome class. You can buy a used SM and convert it into a fairly competitive car for way less than $15k, and you end up with a car that's more fun to drive AND faster.
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If you think it's such an easy win, why don't you rent a car and bring it to Miller?
So sorry, I'll be at Laguna that weekend...

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It won't be the first time I'll have beaten you in a NASA Championship race.
Really, I don't recall that? The only time I raced at the NASA Nationals was in 2011 (I think that was the year) and that year I finished 3rd in PTB behind a Grand AM driver and a former NASA National Champ, and was fighting for a podium in Honda Challenge 1 when I had massive brake failure on the last lap. I don't recall you being in either of those races.

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you're an egotistical *****
I've been called cocky before, and I've been called a d*ck before. Probably will be called those sorts of things again. Oh well...

I promise, in real life I'm a nice guy.

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Sadly, it looks like there won't even be a PTF or TTF class to run this year at Nationals :(
no PTF/TTF ? any link ?
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no PTF/TTF ? any link ?
Only 1 PTF car signed up. 12 PTE cars, though
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no PTF/TTF ? any link ?
4 entries are required by Sept 1st to allow the class to run and right now only Walter Carlos is signed up for both PTF/TTF. If 3 others do not join in, he will either have to 'upclass' to E to participate (and not be as competitive) or be given a refund per the rules. Last year when TTF didn't happen, he just upclassed to TTE 'to get the track time' and it did help him to have that extra track time because he got 2nd place along with the F track record while working hard trying to catch the G20!

Here is the entry list link:

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Anyway, We sold our G20 so are out of the 'F' game for Nationals this year (plus after winning 2 years in a row, have nothing left to prove with that car to be honest) <-- and lets face it, once you have a well proven, well sorted race car, it is usually the best time to sell it (so we did!)


^ we are working on another F car though (that is, it is a car that can easily move from E to F depending on just a few bolt ons and weight!) ...because building a car to the limits of F is kinda fun!
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I am in process with a track build., cage is being fabricated this week, sparco 2000 and a 6 point harness going in. NASA just made it to Oregon this season, and I am interested in the Pte class. any advice?

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^ what year Miata? Are you staying NA for the best reliability or do you plan to track a turbo or supercharged Miata?

I would focus on weight loss and suspension. Lots of people rave about the Fat Cat coilovers because they are set up very specific to you (You tell him what the car weighs, what you want to accomplish, etc. and they are custom made for you)

AST suspension is another very good option (what we plan to get actually when we find a 99 or 2000 to build into a PTE car while visiting Phoenix over thanksgiving week) <-- it is on the short list of possible future track rats for us anyway BUT we will stay NA (not turbo or supercharged for a track rat)
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93 miata. I am open to a motor swap in order to hit hp/wt.
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93 miata. I am open to a motor swap in order to hit hp/wt.
Then pick up an 01-05 VVT motor and get to it. My PTE car is a VVT-swapped '90 and it's a quick little machine.

We're thinking about making the trek up to PIR in October with NASA, in fact.
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Then pick up an 01-05 VVT motor and get to it. My PTE car is a VVT-swapped '90 and it's a quick little machine.

We're thinking about making the trek up to PIR in October with NASA, in fact.
It might be tough to get it all sorted by then, but the vvt seems to be a wise choice. Engine mgmnt is a question mark, but otherwise it is easy enough.

Wish me luck!
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It might be tough to get it all sorted by then, but the vvt seems to be a wise choice. Engine mgmnt is a question mark, but otherwise it is easy enough.

Wish me luck!
Brain or Reverant built MS3.

Dyno tune.

Not particularly difficult.
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