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Old 09-09-2015, 07:56 PM   #61
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A lot of DE4 drivers in my region think they are in race group... lol...
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:32 PM   #62
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Actually, de3 was 9/10ths to 10.5/10ths depending upon the driver. Much of DE4 is 7/10ths to 9/10ths because the edge is worn off a bit and a lot of the instructors are just cruising instead of being superduperserious. The instructors know there will be another trackday and don't have to squeeze everything out of this one.
Fair point. I suppose a compromise might be that DE3 is being driven at 10.5/10ths for parts of the track, but lap times are still coming out to 9/10ths because they're not actually always putting it all together.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:33 PM   #63
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I did 3 TNIA events this year at Pittrace. A 20ish year old girl took a Vette off into the grass...probably too much car for an inexperienced driver in a downpour. A Viper went off track, again too much car for the driver and a new Mustang and Camaro were being a bit too aggressive. No vehicle to vehicle contact and generally everything went well.

I'm probably one of the most overcautious drivers out there. Generally I position myself early so someone can pass. I did get more aggressive on my last session and passed a C6 Vette and a new BMW with a naturally aspirated Miata.

I think the most overlooked issue with TNIA is that the majority of the cars are running stock brake pads. One BMW was melting the resins out of his brake pads.
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Old 09-11-2015, 05:25 PM   #64
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Sometimes DE3 and DE4 are both anywhere w/o a point here. The one time I ran DE3 there were a lot of people who had no business being in an open passing group.
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Old 09-12-2015, 03:45 AM   #65
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Did I buy the wrong car? I met up with Aidan this evening and tried out the seat in his car... He has an aluminum seat bolted directly to the floor of the car. No rails and rear supports removed - you can't get much lower than that. My helmet was just barely touching the hardtop when sitting upright and the top prevented me from being able to move my head back to the headrest on the seat.

Are there any other tricks that could be done to get me lower in the car? Is there such thing as a thinner helmet that still meets all the same safety standards?

Clearly having an adjustable seat is out of the question now... :/
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Old 09-12-2015, 03:58 AM   #66
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Going with a sling seat (sparco Sprint V as an example) and mounting to the floor after dishing the floor down a little would probably buy you as much as another inch. Aside from that...
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<br />...are you familiar with the LaFerrari method?
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<p>The as of my seat is touching the ground in the car. No way hes getting another inch. He needs more layback.</p><p>Good news is, nobody actually does the broomstick test.</p><p>This was my advice for the cars first track day, bare minimum.</p><p>1. Good Pads</p><p>2. Good Coolant Temp Gauge</p><p>3. Turn the boost down.</p>
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Yep, more layback. It seems counter-intuitive, but raising the front of the seat will result in more headroom.
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When I slouch I get another 3 inches.
<br />My seat is a 20* lay back, but mounted with the front on the humps and the back on the ground.
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My seat is 20 deg layback and my bracket adds another 18 deg. Comfy.
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<p>Thats pretty much the same as mine. Just measured, mine is more 10-14 degrees with the bracket. He could go more and it might work. Especially because he is shorter he could move the seat forward and tilt it back. Mine can't go any farther forward without cramping my legs.</p>
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