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Old 04-12-2011, 01:45 PM   #81
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I've got a Mini Cooper kit on my car and a STUPID question/comment! Drilling the holes larger was easy. Some experimenting with a handful of thin washers, used as spacers, is all the fiddling needed. It was so easily adapted to the Miata why even mess with a Miata specific front kit? Did I miss something?
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I've got a Mini Cooper kit on my car and a STUPID question/comment! Drilling the holes larger was easy. Some experimenting with a handful of thin washers, used as spacers, is all the fiddling needed. It was so easily adapted to the Miata why even mess with a Miata specific front kit? Did I miss something?
I think the thing that TCE offers is a extreemly competative price and one stop shoping for the centering rings longer mounting studs spacers and hoses needed to make it Miata specific.

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Centering rings. That's what I forgot! Doh!
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Thanks for the updates guys.

Bob; those little calipers and pads are maybe a tad to small for realistic life? Obviously wear is related to total cubic inches...there's not much of that. An alternative to that might be to run a small four pot to pick up some pad size. There are a couple of 1.0" bore parts to pick from.

As for the holes I totally agree that it's probably 'simple to drill them out' but trust me here; selling something that requires this or modifications to that extent is tougher than you may think. People want and expect bolt-on simplicity. And to a great extent I agree; knowing my phone won't ring on Monday about how it's all jacked up for some reason. But for those who can- can.
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Thanks for the updates guys.

Bob; those little calipers and pads are maybe a tad to small for realistic life? Obviously wear is related to total cubic inches...there's not much of that. An alternative to that might be to run a small four pot to pick up some pad size. There are a couple of 1.0" bore parts to pick from.

As for the holes I totally agree that it's probably 'simple to drill them out' but trust me here; selling something that requires this or modifications to that extent is tougher than you may think. People want and expect bolt-on simplicity. And to a great extent I agree; knowing my phone won't ring on Monday about how it's all jacked up for some reason. But for those who can- can.
Yea I plan on updating my rear caliper adapter brackets eventually to run Sport brake brackets and pads in the rear. The bit more pad area they offer would be good for the rear. The adapter bracket will become a bit more complicated though.

And yes the holes are very easy to drill out. It is hardly removing any material to go from the slightly oversized for 10mm bolts holes to 11.1 mm for the 7/16 bolts that mount the Mini Parts. Chasing the holes with a hand drill is easy.

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Centering rings. That's what I forgot! Doh!
I dont think just using the studs to center the rotors with the hub is accurate enough.

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Been a month now...any final installed pics or result noted?
I have been busy building my motor the last month. I will post some pics when it is done.
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:55 PM   #88
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I dont think just using the studs to center the rotors with the hub is accurate enough.

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I have centering rings with mine. Just forgot they wouldn't come with the Mini Cooper kit. Bought mine used and the rings were included.
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Thanks for the updates guys.

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As for the holes I totally agree that it's probably 'simple to drill them out' but trust me here; selling something that requires this or modifications to that extent is tougher than you may think. People want and expect bolt-on simplicity. And to a great extent I agree; knowing my phone won't ring on Monday about how it's all jacked up for some reason. But for those who can- can.
Todd, do you have a complete list of items available on your side so it's easy to order when I feel the urge to be creative with my economy?
The exchange rates are good nowadays so it's tempting, but I have a racing season to manage too (and bigger brakes doesn't help if you have to stay at home).
Is XP10 as compound available from TCE or can the parts/kit be bought without pads?

The toughest part for me would be to source a 1/2" drill bit...
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Todd, do you have a complete list of items available on your side so it's easy to order when I feel the urge to be creative with my economy?
The exchange rates are good nowadays so it's tempting, but I have a racing season to manage too (and bigger brakes doesn't help if you have to stay at home).
Is XP10 as compound available from TCE or can the parts/kit be bought without pads?

The toughest part for me would be to source a 1/2" drill bit...
The bolts are 7/16" or 11.1125mm A 12mm drill would work good. The stock bolts are 10mm but existing holes are probably 10.5-10.75 mm. It dosn't take much enlarging to get the 7/16" bolts to slip through.

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As Bob points out the bolts are 7/16 SAE or roughly .437". Enlarging them to 12mm would be foolishly large in my opinion and loose. (we have sleeves for that reason...!) A 7/16 bit would be much closer to the needs of enlarging the holes from M10. Of course the fact that a drill bit does not drill a true round hole coupled with hand held use makes it nice for a bit larger hole and more "fudge factor". Metric bits in the 11.25mm range are not hard to come by. A good reamer is all anyone really needs I bet.

As for the parts....I have them noted on a build or spec sheet for production. While I'd be happy to sell you a MINI kit and all the related parts to do the conversion I think you'd find spec the entire package from me as one unit more to your liking. And less expensive. Getting a kit without pads does not pose any problems either. But I'd not jump ship on some of the pads offered by Wilwood either, there are quite a few very well proven compounds.
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As Bob points out the bolts are 7/16 SAE or roughly .437". Enlarging them to 12mm would be foolishly large in my opinion and loose. (we have sleeves for that reason...!) A 7/16 bit would be much closer to the needs of enlarging the holes from M10. Of course the fact that a drill bit does not drill a true round hole coupled with hand held use makes it nice for a bit larger hole and more "fudge factor". Metric bits in the 11.25mm range are not hard to come by. A good reamer is all anyone really needs I bet.

As for the parts....I have them noted on a build or spec sheet for production. While I'd be happy to sell you a MINI kit and all the related parts to do the conversion I think you'd find spec the entire package from me as one unit more to your liking. And less expensive. Getting a kit without pads does not pose any problems either. But I'd not jump ship on some of the pads offered by Wilwood either, there are quite a few very well proven compounds.
You are correct FWIW the stock Mini Wilwood Kit comes with sleeves for the mounting holes on the Mini Knuckles I assume the Mini in stock form actually uses 12mm caliper bracket bolts where the Miata uses 10mm. A die hard American company like Wilwood apparently refuses to do metric hardware and uses 7/16"

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Oh don't sweat it....20yr dealers like myself have begun to show them the way to easier production and lower costs. Ie. brackets drilled and tapped to spec! lol
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