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Old 11-09-2018, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jacob300zx View Post
In an ideal world you would have at the least a rollbar, fresh brake fluid, Gloc R8's, Dunlop DZ102, and some camber. I could drive that car to the track, run all weekend, and drive home. Pads and fluid are pretty much a non negotiable.
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The camber in this car has me frustrated because I'm used to bigger numbers. In the couple of races I did WC I ran almost 4 in the front. This car I get -1.4 Camber front and -0.6 Camber Rear but apparently that's about right with oem equipment. Hopefully will get some more when I install the suspension.



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The front wheels are usually the limiting factor with camber. You can trade away caster to get more, but you’re probably not goint to get more than 2 degrees. The solution is extended lower ball joints. The rear is usually capable of 3 degrees or more without any changes.
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Originally Posted by borka View Post
Autox you need nothing but a bone stock miata.

you cant overheat or brake fade in 45 seconds
Sure you can, ask me how I know. Depends on power, grip level, ambient temp and the driver course.

Sidebar: I wonder if we should create a sticky for noob/beginner track prep. No Xida, Hoosiers or Aero, just the very basics to buy a Craigslist car and do your first couple of track days.
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In a bone stock Miata as specified? Sounds like quite the accomplishment.
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Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
In a bone stock Miata as specified? Sounds like quite the accomplishment.
Bone stock NA6 with A/C and some stickier OEM replacement tires on stock wheels on a 105° day on a long SoCal autocross course, absolutely.

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Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
Bone stock NA6 with A/C and some stickier OEM replacement tires on stock wheels on a 105° day on a long SoCal autocross course, absolutely.

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Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
Sure you can, ask me how I know. Depends on power, grip level, ambient temp and the driver course.

Sidebar: I wonder if we should create a sticky for noob/beginner track prep. No Xida, Hoosiers or Aero, just the very basics to buy a Craigslist car and do your first couple of track days.
I think this would be helpful to many. Especially now with used Billy's being so cheap, making a "beginner" HPDE car is as simple and as cheap as ever.

Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
Bone stock NA6 with A/C and some stickier OEM replacement tires on stock wheels on a 105° day on a long SoCal autocross course, absolutely.
Fair play, but you're not exactly the "average" driver around here haha. Especially not a newer AutoX/HPDE driver.
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Friends don't let friends drive na6 brakes.
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Originally Posted by Goingnowherefast View Post
I think this would be helpful to many. Especially now with used Billy's being so cheap, making a "beginner" HPDE car is as simple and as cheap as ever.



Fair play, but you're not exactly the "average" driver around here haha. Especially not a newer AutoX/HPDE driver.
Thus why I included the YMMV for driver.

This forum took a turn about 6 years ago, becoming far more racer oriented. There were always a few smart gear head types here but they were often drowned out by the hoards of members with very little knowledge or experience.
That situation has flipped so the legacy members that contribute the bulk of the data driven info stored here suppress the noise. So MT has become the How To Fast Miata bible, for better or worse. It's wearing to have to field
those same questions. But we are all driven to strengthen and expand the community, not exclude. So we either complain and do nothing or start the long process of collating and indexing the info stored here.

Personally, I have a strong allergic reaction when anyone in my sphere complains but does not offer a solution. Do something or shut up. I complain about the indexing thing myself so it's time to start work on it. Anyone here that cares to help will be welcome.
Jacob's "first track day" is a good place to start.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter View Post
Friends don't let friends drive na6 brakes.
Andrew Kidd ran NA6 brakes on Theseus at Laguna Seca once. True story.
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CSP is pretty wild, too.
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Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
Andrew Kidd ran NA6 brakes on Theseus at Laguna Seca once. True story.
Suboptimal is a term that comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter View Post
Suboptimal is a term that comes to mind.
Agreed. I thank God for the runoff on the first turn onto the inside track at Pocono.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter View Post
Friends don't let friends drive na6 brakes.
I was honestly surprised mine held up at Pocono raceway. Double infield and hitting 105 down the back straight (in an N/A NA6!). Stoptech sport pads. Though that run from 40-105 probably gave them enough time to cool.
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Originally Posted by olderguy View Post
Agreed. I thank God for the runoff on the first turn onto the inside track at Pocono.
Truth be known; this was after the car was turbo-ed and with two drivers REALLY pushing it. The next week Paul showed up with a set of sport brakes for it.

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