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We have been using 15W-40 in the lemons cars and have noticed less consumption and less lifter tick. Supposedly the additives in it are good for a gas track car without a cat. It is changed after every race and comes out still looking pretty good. We will be doing an oil change here in a couple weeks and sending it off to blackstone to have them take a look at it.
We have been bouncing around the Idea of going over to a synthetic 5W-40 for the 24 hour race, but this stuff always looks great after 14 hours of racing. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 854569)
Lets see, Rotella provided more zinc, phos, magnesium, significantly more moly, it absorbed more fuel and sheared less for a higher end viscosity, making it a better oil in just about every way. The only confounding variable is break-in because the first two Rotella UOAs had higher wear metals (still tiny numbers) and I suspect that is from break-in. I will do another analysis this summer or later this year since I have a new head in the car and I don't want to skew the UOA data again.
Where did the AMSoil do better again? |
Originally Posted by Boost Joose
(Post 854571)
Lets see that spec sheet.......:jerkit:
Yes, lets compare marketing packages rather than real, turbo Miata related data. |
Originally Posted by rharris19
(Post 854570)
We have been using 15W-40 in the lemons cars and have noticed less consumption and less lifter tick. Supposedly the additives in it are good for a gas track car without a cat. It is changed after every race and comes out still looking pretty good. We will be doing an oil change here in a couple weeks and sending it off to blackstone to have them take a look at it.
We have been bouncing around the Idea of going over to a synthetic 5W-40 for the 24 hour race, but this stuff always looks great after 14 hours of racing. |
You're also recommending an oil with a CST score of 18 at 100*c for our engines with relatively light tolerances that typically operate under 250*f oil temps. This oil might work in something like a Vette that is built super loose on the big-ends of the rods since they run incredibly hot, but even then the oil is too thick. The Rotella T6 is a little low at 15 CST at 100*f and that's a good thing considering that we're not pouring that oil in a tractor.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 854574)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rotella+5w40+spec+sheet+shell
Yes, lets compare marketing packages rather than real, turbo Miata related data. |
Originally Posted by Boost Joose
(Post 854580)
Let run the mystery oil......the one made by one of the most wealthy companys in the world that cant afford a spec sheet. :facepalm:
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
(Post 854580)
Let run the mystery oil......the one made by one of the most wealthy companys in the world that cant afford a spec sheet. :facepalm:
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Originally Posted by dc2696
(Post 854586)
lolz.. Yea because no one runs T6 on the track... You obviously get out to the race track very often :giggle:
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
(Post 854591)
Ok, it's obvious Rotella is a great oil. I do find it strange that they do not make a spec sheet though. I can't honesly argue that the Eneos oil is better or worse than the Rotella and neither can you guys because there is no spec sheet or direct oil analysis comparison. They are both great oils so lets just agree to disagree until there is some hard proof and stop the thread jacking. :fawk:
"Great oils" if you want something extremely thick and no UOA available. A spec sheet doesn't make an oil great, one that survives a few hours in a super-fat track car does backed-up by data does. |
googling rotella t6 synthetic
the first link is http://www-static.shell.com/static/c...rotella_t6.pdf |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 854594)
googling rotella t6 synthetic
the first link is http://www-static.shell.com/static/c...rotella_t6.pdf This is a spec sheet: Typical Properties of ENEOS Motor Oil Quality grade RG/API SM SAE viscosity grade 0W-50 Density (15°C), g/cm3 0.847 Flash point (COC), °C 232 Kinematic viscosity (40°C), mm2/s 104 (100°C), mm2/s 18.0 Viscosity index 192 Pour point, °C -45.0 TAN, mgKOH/g 2.3 TBN (HCLO4), mgKOH/g 8.2 Color (ASTM) L3.0 |
Originally Posted by Boost Joose
(Post 854596)
Viscosity index 192
lol @ tractor oil lol @ virginity lol @ low testosterone |
Also, who gives a ---- about VI? I care about the CST score at 100*c second only to zinc and moly, and fuel shear, and price, and virility.
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
(Post 854596)
......and that is not a spec sheet.
This is a spec sheet: Typical Properties of ENEOS Motor Oil Quality grade RG/API SM SAE viscosity grade 0W-50 Density (15°C), g/cm3 0.847 Flash point (COC), °C 232 Kinematic viscosity (40°C), mm2/s 104 (100°C), mm2/s 18.0 Viscosity index 192 Pour point, °C -45.0 TAN, mgKOH/g 2.3 TBN (HCLO4), mgKOH/g 8.2 Color (ASTM) L3.0 EDIT: Also your tracking your car right? And its turbocharged making over 250whp? Or are you just giving advice based on what the oil company is telling you? |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 854593)
Thank you for being the man here, now let me take some notes on how to be an adult instead of an e-thug and maybe one day I will mature.
"Great oils" if you want something with a supreme viscocity index and not by diesel rigs. A spec sheet doesn't make an oil great, one that is used in Moto GP super bikes, Formula 1 cars, and produced by the largest most technologically advanced oil producer in asia and arguabily the world. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 854597)
lol @ 40hp to pump that oil.
lol @ tractor oil lol @ virginity lol @ low testosterone |
Originally Posted by Boost Joose
(Post 854605)
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
(Post 854607)
Wow....you're an idiot. Viscocity index is a measurement of the consistency of the fluid over a temperature range. The higher the number the more consistent the viscosity.....:facepalm:
Call me an idiot all you want, you've never contributed a god damned thing to this forum other than being an annoying pest. |
Rotella T6 5W-40 full synthetic API SM
KV40 87.0cSt KV100 14.2cSt VI 169.5 TBN HTHS 4.0cP edit: MSDS gives us this info 5w-40 Flash point: >230C Density: .895kg/m3 |
Originally Posted by dc2696
(Post 854616)
Rotella T6 5W-40 full synthetic API SM
KV40 87.0cSt KV100 14.2cSt VI 169.5 TBN HTHS 4.0cP edit: MSDS gives us this info 5w-40 Flash point: >230C Density: .895kg/m3 |
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