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Old 05-16-2018, 10:59 PM
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Hi folks, would really appreciate some feedback on the different ways the external oil cooler system could be plumbed. This is for a track car which has been modelled on Andrew's Acamas build (400+hp). I would just buy the TSE oil cooler setup, but I have an Accusump I want to include, so I'm just trying to find the cleanest install with the lowest pressure drop. Which one of the below options would you choose, and why? Or is there a better way that I am not seeing? . Thanks heaps
  • Hoses & Hoses and fitting are -12 AN, except for the Canton check valve and sandwich plate, which has 1/2" BSP ports
  • oil pressure sensor is mounted on a TSE turbo oil feed adapter
  • oil temp sensor is mounted in the sump
  • the Setrab sandwich plate mentioned below has a built-in thermostat


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None of those, IMO. Use our oil cooler kit and tee the Accusump in after the cooler. Check valve goes between the cooler and the Accusump.
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What andrew says. I avoid filter relocations at all costs. I've plumbed a Ford 302 into an e30 with accusump, remote filter, and cooler. Never again.

You mainly want option one, but with the accusump T'd into the "in" line, and a check valve prior to keep it from back feeding the cooler instead.
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Righto, thanks guys. Andrew, I didn't realise till just now how schmick those Setrab Proline fittings were, they eliminate extra adapters and joins - would make for a super slick install. So below is my corrected diagram, and then a close-up of how to plumb in the check valve. I'm also presuming that:
- Seeing as the TSE kit is AN-10, that AN-12 is overkill, and
- I should get extra Setrab branded hose to the Accusumpif using their fittings.
Have I misunderstood anything?
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Why no filter relocation?

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Why no filter relocation?

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Additional lines and potential leak points.
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Appears correct. But if you can mount the T right off the sandwich plate that’s one less line. And yes -12 is over kill.
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
Why no filter relocation?

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Filter relocations are objectively awful. Added weight, added complexity, tons of extra failure points, all to make a 3 minute job into a 30 second job. So myopic it hurts my brain.
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Don't mean to thread-jack. Andrew - using the TSE kit; if I wanted to add a oil temp sensor (
click click
). Which port off the Moral thermo sandwich would I leverage?
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Oil should be measured pre-cooler. Ideally you measure the temperature in the sump/pan, but pre-cooler inline is close enough. There are inline adapters that I haven't tried (search Google). I put oil temp sensors in the pan.
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Originally Posted by Savington
Oil should be measured pre-cooler. Ideally you measure the temperature in the sump/pan, but pre-cooler inline is close enough. There are inline adapters that I haven't tried (search Google). I put oil temp sensors in the pan.
Thanks. That is the left port when facing down right?
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