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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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Hello i just traded rx7 fc for a 1990 miata.
t did come turbo with a greddy turbo kit, rising rate fpr, apexi safc (removed it as soon as i took car home) flying miata roll bar, and exhaust.. it a bad idle and wen i checked the igntion timing, it retard by like 14.... so i took everything apart, redid the timing belt to exact mark... rechecked the mark after running it for 5 minutes and there still good.... but wen i checked the ignition timing, it was still advance retarded 12°… so i advance the cas as much as i can and it went to about 4° atdc... and only way to get to 10° btdc is taking out the bolt that holds it in place, and moving it more to 10° btdc but itruns a rough... any suggestions on what mighg be the problem??
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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I suggest you figure out what the heck you are doing.
Old Nov 24, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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All iam trying to do is to get the car running good enough to use as my daily driver
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 11:09 AM
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First off, why did you take out the S-AFC? It was probably adding fuel. So now that is done, let's go over a few things:

1. When setting your timing, did you jumper the diagnostic box to set the car in timing mode?
2. It sounds like you are not reading your timing light correctly or are looking at the wrong marks. Regardless, with a greddy turbo kit in stock form, you should be at 6 degrees of timing.
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You got a warning for being ******* retarded and typing like a child. Learn to type like an adult or find another forum. Well, preferably "find another forum".
Old Nov 24, 2012 | 03:11 PM
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Dont tell me iam retarded you piece of sh$%... all iam looking for help from miata guys, but you have to be a huge dick... reason why its all mispelled is because iam doing it on my phone, and iam at work... but thanks for your hrlp...
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mystery156
Dont tell me iam retarded you piece of sh$%... all iam looking for help from miata guys, but you have to be a huge dick... reason why its all mispelled is because iam doing it on my phone, and iam at work... but thanks for your hrlp...
Reposting what I wrote:
First off, why did you take out the S-AFC? It was probably adding fuel. So now that is done, let's go over a few things:

1. When setting your timing, did you jumper the diagnostic box to set the car in timing mode?
2. It sounds like you are not reading your timing light correctly or are looking at the wrong marks. Regardless, with a greddy turbo kit in stock form, you should be at 6 degrees of timing.
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Originally Posted by dustinb
Reposting what I wrote:
First off, why did you take out the S-AFC? It was probably adding fuel. So now that is done, let's go over a few things:

1. When setting your timing, did you jumper the diagnostic box to set the car in timing mode?
2. It sounds like you are not reading your timing light correctly or are looking at the wrong marks. Regardless, with a greddy turbo kit in stock form, you should be at 6 degrees of timing.
I took off the S-AFC because it didnt have no tune and as soon as i took it off it ran better then before.
I did hook up the jumper cable and i bought the manual for it and saw wat marks to look at and to which ones to line up..
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Originally Posted by mystery156
Dont tell me iam retarded you piece of sh$%... all iam looking for help from miata guys, but you have to be a huge dick... reason why its all mispelled is because iam doing it on my phone, and iam at work... but thanks for your hrlp...
I have no doubt you're looking for guys packing huge dicks.

In other news, I'm totally capable of capitalization and punctuation when posting from my phone. I suggest you learn to do it or I will taunt you a second time.
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Why the **** did you remove the air/fuel controller? That was retard dumb move number 1.
Put that **** back and set your timing to stock. If you are daily driving the car, make it as simple as possible for your "new to the turbo world" experience.

edited: Just full time the thing and max the MBC.

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I have no doubt you're looking for guys packing huge dicks.

In other news, I'm totally capable of capitalization and punctuation when posting from my phone. I suggest you learn to do it or I will taunt you a second time.
Must be looking in the wrong place then.. and i have better things to do then to be worrying about punctuation and spelling on a forum instead of helping each other out on problems with our cars
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Originally Posted by mystery156
Must be looking in the wrong place then.. and i have better things to do then to be worrying about punctuation and spelling on a forum instead of helping each other out on problems with our cars
It sounds like you want us to help figure out what you broke from the start; you are going to blow up that engine or warp the head if you keep ******* with the timing violently like that.

edited: no help for you.

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Originally Posted by mystery156
Must be looking in the wrong place then.. and i have better things to do then to be worrying about punctuation and spelling on a forum instead of helping each other out on problems with our cars
Sorry, but on this forum we respect the language and communicate like adults. Please, write like an adult or I'll be forced to ban you. I get that you're destined to be a Wal Mart greeter, but please consider that most of us aren't and hold ourselves to a higher regard when communicating.
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Originally Posted by mystery156
Must be looking in the wrong place then.. and i have better things to do then to be worrying about punctuation and spelling on a forum instead of helping each other out on problems with our cars
Its a matter of common courtesy, you're coming here asking for help and you can't be bothered to answer questions or take the time to speak English that we can understand? Just keep doing WOT pulls until the problem fixes itself.
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Also, how the **** are you adjusting the timing, exactly? You do know there is a "diagnostic" mode, right?
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Originally Posted by albumleaf
its a matter of common courtesy, you're coming here asking for help and you can't be bothered to answer questions or take the time to speak english that we can understand? Just keep doing wot pulls until the problem fixes itself.
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looks like morse code
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Dear mystery156,

If you do not reason with our requirements we will not help you. If someone was on your door step calling you a dickless ******* but wants to use your phone, do you let him? Probably not.

However, if you do not agree with our methods of communication and reliable running miatas of enjoyment, there is a site full of people that would happily take in your frantic rants of disregard and belligerent broken english over at www.clubroadster.net; and a cat name Hyper will surly show you the way.
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Originally Posted by Pen2_the_penguin
Dear mystery156,

If you do not reason with our requirements we will not help you. If someone was on your door step calling you a dickless ******* but wants to use your phone, do you let him? Probably not.

However, if you do not agree with our methods of communication and reliable running miatas of enjoyment, there is a site full of people that would happily take in your frantic rants of disregard and belligerent broken english over at www.clubroadster.net; and a cat name Hyper will surly show you the way.
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