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Old 08-27-2011, 08:09 PM   #41
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Even at 310cfm, and a .5 bsfc, you're looking at ~227bhp at best. Knock 15% off of that and you're at 185whp, which is about 10whp more than I've ever seen an m45 produce.

Empirical evidence says you won't break 200whp with an M45. If you want 200-220, you need an MP62 or a small turbo.
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200-220 makes it easier with my weight. That's my basis for those numbers.
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200-220 makes it easier with my weight. That's my basis for those numbers.
Easier for what?
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Easier for what?
To go fast. I think he's trying to say he's on the mighty porky side.
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To go fast. I think he's trying to say he's on the mighty porky side.
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Diet and exercise?
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Even at 310cfm, and a .5 bsfc, you're looking at ~227bhp at best. Knock 15% off of that and you're at 185whp, which is about 10whp more than I've ever seen an m45 produce.

Empirical evidence says you won't break 200whp with an M45. If you want 200-220, you need an MP62 or a small turbo.
not doubting you. But searching the dyno's on M.net with M45 as the key word. Brings up a few who have gotten into the 180's. Is it the dyno, the operator....


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Old 08-28-2011, 02:31 PM   #48
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Can a mod move this to the SC section

Since the empirical data says my dyno numbers are inaccurate. Then I'll challenge the empirical data to break 200 with an M45
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Thanks Joe
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Since the empirical data says my dyno numbers are inaccurate. Then I'll challenge the empirical data to break 200 with an M45
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The best of luck to you. And I'm being serious/not snarky/whatever - best of luck to you.

If you break 200 with an M45, you'll be doing something common knowledge believes impossible.

However, I imagine coming close to 200, let alone breaking it, is going to cost big $$$ if it's even possible on a M45.
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The idea that a M45 will make any engine only make 160hp is just flat wrong.

http://www.trackdogracing.com/websit...9_M45_8PSI.pdf

There is a M45 SC and a Shitty Power card making 196 and a half HP. But that is on a 99 motor. Not sure you are going to get any where close to 200 out of a high compression 1.6 even with a turbo.

And there are several M62ed and MP62ed cars WELL over the 220-240 HP range, I personally know of one that is making 300.

Now back to the topic at hand. Sell your motor or put new pistons in it, slap a turbo on there and call it a day.
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I could live with that
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Then you would need to do a 99-00 1.8 swap or even better do a later VVT motor swap.
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Then you would need to do a 99-00 1.8 swap or even better do a later VVT motor swap.
nope. I'll keep plugging away at the old POS 1.6 everyone hates.
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I don't hate it. You just seem to want to take an unnecessarily difficult pathway to reach a VERY easy to hit goal. But to each his own.
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I don't hate it. You just seem to want to take an unnecessarily difficult pathway to reach a VERY easy to hit goal. But to each his own.
not unnecessarily difficult. I have the engine, management, exhaust, and a blower for mock up. Just need to find a take off kit.

PS, check your PM's
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I got your PM. And 1) just because it works on a Honda doesn't mean it will work on a Miata. 2) I have NO IDEA what his power numbers are 3) I have NO IDEA what he is using for forced induction. So not sure what your point is. I think you have a very reachable goal. Just think you are going to need to make some changes to your current set up if you want to do it with a M45
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I got your PM. And 1) just because it works on a Honda doesn't mean it will work on a Miata. 2) I have NO IDEA what his power numbers are 3) I have NO IDEA what he is using for forced induction. So not sure what your point is. I think you have a very reachable goal. Just think you are going to need to make some changes to your current set up if you want to do it with a M45
doesn't mater what the numbers are....it proves you CAN run FI on a high base compression.
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Yes you can and nobody said you couldn't. But you aren't going to hit the numbers you want to hit with a high compression B6 and a M45. You can run FI on a 14:1 motor....but just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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just gotta do it and find out
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