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Old 11-17-2015, 11:00 PM   #1
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Default When is Jackong Racing going to release thier CARB Rotrex kit?

Anyone have any idea when JR will release the kit for miata?
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Jackson Racing, both the original and its many namesake-derivatives, have earned a well-deserved reputation over the years for promising vastly more than they have the capacity to deliver.
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I called them, they said as soon as noobs stop making silly thread.

....so never
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I bet you Jackson Racing has an idea
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do they have a raging clue?
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do they have a raging clue?
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I've heard that they've had Carb approval for roughly a year, so the question is, if that's true, why can't they assemble the kits and get them to market.
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Maybe because they have other better things to do? Jesus. You act like you deserve the kit from them
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Maybe because they have other better things to do? Jesus. You act like you deserve the kit from them
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Huh. Sure enough, EO D-700-4 is listed on the ARB website: http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/de...eo/D-700-4.pdf

If you read page 2 of the EO, it does note that approval was granted based on previously-submitted test data from prior EOs on other cars (eg: EO D-700, 700-1, etc), so the fact that they have this EO doesn't necessarily mean that they've built a single one for a Miata, even as a prototype.

Doesn't mean they haven't, either...
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Huh. Sure enough, EO D-700-4 is listed on the ARB website: http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/de...eo/D-700-4.pdf

If you read page 2 of the EO, it does note that approval was granted based on previously-submitted test data from prior EOs on other cars (eg: EO D-700, 700-1, etc), so the fact that they have this EO doesn't necessarily mean that they've built a single one for a Miata, even as a prototype.

Doesn't mean they haven't, either...
That's right.

see: https://jacksonracing.com/jackson-ra...y-laguna-seca/

Four of the five Miatas are listed with the CARB-certified system, and they were giving rides at the MRLS Miata 25th Anniversary event last year. At MRLS, I asked them how they thought their system would compare to the (then unreleased) TDR Rotrex system, other than being CARB-certified, and they said then they had never heard of it.

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TDR and JR both should be better systems than the Kraftwrecks kit. TDR has been slow at getting theirs to market but they are a small couple guy operation so that's to be expected. I wonder if the JR is a supply chain issue?
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I keep wondering why there's been so much apparent interest in rotary superchargers of late. Maybe it's just be, but I continue to be extremely unimpressed by the shape of their torque curves.
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Because


And emilio likes them so they have to be good.
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I keep wondering why there's been so much apparent interest in rotary superchargers of late. Maybe it's just be, but I continue to be extremely unimpressed by the shape of their torque curves.


Reliability close to an N/A, but all the power up top like a low boost track setup. If you're going for slow car fast that is.
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I don't buy the reliability close to N/A. More power = more heat. No matter what form.

You just make less of it so its more reliable. Turn down the turbo boost and you get the same thing.
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I keep wondering why there's been so much apparent interest in rotary superchargers of late. Maybe it's just be, but I continue to be extremely unimpressed by the shape of their torque curves.
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I don't buy the reliability close to N/A. More power = more heat. No matter what form.

You just make less of it so its more reliable. Turn down the turbo boost and you get the same thing.
Agreed, though even with turning down the boost on turbo the low end tq delivery will be much greater than rotrex application. Less tq in this area possibly equals to reliability in my mind at least.

I think the slow car fast theme comes into play with rotrex getting the most out of your slightly boosted N/A step in the upper rpm range.

I'd like to see concealer's Gross car with a rotrex
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