Another 5spd vs 6spd Thread
12-11-2013, 02:30 PM
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You all genuinely had me laughing out loud through all of page 2. Props to all of you.
Guy gets lucky by getting his question answered, so he decides to ask MORE questions that have been answered a million times. Just brilliant.
So but I have a question tho. Like, how bad of a drift car is the Miata? Maybe that TURNS guy can answer this question. Or maybe not? Maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about so I'm asking all of you.
Guy gets lucky by getting his question answered, so he decides to ask MORE questions that have been answered a million times. Just brilliant.
So but I have a question tho. Like, how bad of a drift car is the Miata? Maybe that TURNS guy can answer this question. Or maybe not? Maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about so I'm asking all of you.
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12-11-2013, 02:31 PM
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But I have a lead on a Miata and I want to build a drift missile. Do you think my insurance company would cover me if I wall it? How much would insurance cost to cover that?
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12-11-2013, 04:32 PM
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What part of "stock rods are only good to 250whp" do you not understand?
Also: I'm not sure where you are getting the $1500 number for rods and pistons.
Supertech Pistons Miata - $477
Manley Forged Connecting Rods Miata - $359
Y U NO SEARCH? YOU MAKE KITTEN SAD!
Also: I'm not sure where you are getting the $1500 number for rods and pistons.
Supertech Pistons Miata - $477
Manley Forged Connecting Rods Miata - $359
Y U NO SEARCH? YOU MAKE KITTEN SAD!
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12-11-2013, 04:34 PM
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What part of "stock rods are only good to 250whp" do you not understand?
Also: I'm not sure where you are getting the $1500 number for rods and pistons.
Supertech Pistons Miata - $477
Manley Forged Connecting Rods Miata - $359
Y U NO SEARCH? YOU MAKE KITTEN SAD!
Also: I'm not sure where you are getting the $1500 number for rods and pistons.
Supertech Pistons Miata - $477
Manley Forged Connecting Rods Miata - $359
Y U NO SEARCH? YOU MAKE KITTEN SAD!
Find me cheap rods and pistons for an F2, kthx.
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My comment was directed at OP, I think I somehow managed to miss all of Page2 here
12-11-2013, 05:19 PM
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Do you know what it means when I describe the Miata as having a low polar moment of inertia? Probably not. You probably won't even enrich your knowledge base by Googling it. Just like we don't base our turbo choices upon what spare turbos we have laying around that we acquired cheap, you don't choose just any rear wheel drive that happens to be cheap and say "I should spend my money making a drift car out of this." For certain chassis configurations (including the Miata) it is a very poor choice. Ostensibly, dogs and cats are similar in many regards and are of the same basic configuration (four legs, mammal, tail, etc.) and are much more similar than dogs and dolphins, but a police officer would not be able to use a cat as a service animal to sniff for drugs and apprehend fleeing criminals because it is ill suited for the task. Do you see many Ford F150s being used as drift cars? How about Smart ForTwos? Sure, both can do burnouts given enough power and small enough and hard enough tires, but can they easily carry a drift angle without over- or under-rotating? Remember, we want a low level of difficulty if we are actually trying to do something competitively. Even if it is the equivalent of an all male nude leapfrog team.
tl;dr it takes more than rear wheel drive to make a good choice for a drift car
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12-11-2013, 05:23 PM
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Do you know how I know you went to public school within the last ten years?
Do you know what it means when I describe the Miata as having a low polar moment of inertia? Probably not. You probably won't even enrich your knowledge base by Googling it. Just like we don't base our turbo choices upon what spare turbos we have laying around that we acquired cheap, you don't choose just any rear wheel drive that happens to be cheap and say "I should spend my money making a drift car out of this." For certain chassis configurations (including the Miata) it is a very poor choice. Ostensibly, dogs and cats are similar in many regards and are of the same basic configuration (four legs, mammal, tail, etc.) and are much more similar than dogs and dolphins, but a police officer would not be able to use a cat as a service animal to sniff for drugs and apprehend fleeing criminals because it is ill suited for the task. Do you see many Ford F150s being used as drift cars? How about Smart ForTwos? Sure, both can do burnouts given enough power and small enough and hard enough tires, but can they easily carry a drift angle without over- or under-rotating? Remember, we want a low level of difficulty if we are actually trying to do something competitively. Even if it is the equivalent of an all male nude leapfrog team.
tl;dr it takes more than rear wheel drive to make a good choice for a drift car
Do you know what it means when I describe the Miata as having a low polar moment of inertia? Probably not. You probably won't even enrich your knowledge base by Googling it. Just like we don't base our turbo choices upon what spare turbos we have laying around that we acquired cheap, you don't choose just any rear wheel drive that happens to be cheap and say "I should spend my money making a drift car out of this." For certain chassis configurations (including the Miata) it is a very poor choice. Ostensibly, dogs and cats are similar in many regards and are of the same basic configuration (four legs, mammal, tail, etc.) and are much more similar than dogs and dolphins, but a police officer would not be able to use a cat as a service animal to sniff for drugs and apprehend fleeing criminals because it is ill suited for the task. Do you see many Ford F150s being used as drift cars? How about Smart ForTwos? Sure, both can do burnouts given enough power and small enough and hard enough tires, but can they easily carry a drift angle without over- or under-rotating? Remember, we want a low level of difficulty if we are actually trying to do something competitively. Even if it is the equivalent of an all male nude leapfrog team.
tl;dr it takes more than rear wheel drive to make a good choice for a drift car
BAHAHA you forgot about this thread already, specifically posts 63 and 64?
https://www.miataturbo.net/insert-bs...r-76368/page4/
I'm a bit hurt that you thought I was being serious. The grammar is all part of it, sir.
DISCLAIMER: Every question I posted in this thread was facetious. And I do know what polar moment of inertia is, and I think that Mazda stating this as the reason for using a top-mounted instead of a front-mounted intercooler on the Mazdaspeed6 is silly. Cuz 15 pound intercooler on 3500 lb car = nobody would notice the difference.
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12-11-2013, 06:10 PM
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I tried to drift my dad's '01 Cummins 5-speed once, in a snowy cul-de-sac. Understeer replaced oversteer, and the neighbor's mailbox suffered. Dad never learned the real reason for the scratch on his passenger side fender.
Maybe I'm old enough now to tell him the real story. Sold the truck years ago.
Maybe I'm old enough now to tell him the real story. Sold the truck years ago.
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12-11-2013, 07:13 PM
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Not trolling, per se.
I was hoping we could keep playing awhile longer. I was going to suggest if you were dead set on building a Miata that would drift well that you add about 6 inches to the wheelbase at the doors and transmission tunnel. The actual logic is that 240sx and rx7 are actually better drift cars at least partially because of a longer wheelbase. The logic is sound.
It would be great if you eventually buy into the modification so that future searchers of a thread can think you went through with it and ask how it worked out. I have pictures of a Miata I sawzalled in half that would go well with the story. Somebody should start a thread.
I was hoping we could keep playing awhile longer. I was going to suggest if you were dead set on building a Miata that would drift well that you add about 6 inches to the wheelbase at the doors and transmission tunnel. The actual logic is that 240sx and rx7 are actually better drift cars at least partially because of a longer wheelbase. The logic is sound.
It would be great if you eventually buy into the modification so that future searchers of a thread can think you went through with it and ask how it worked out. I have pictures of a Miata I sawzalled in half that would go well with the story. Somebody should start a thread.
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