The Better Bilstein Ebay Coilover Thread
06-30-2014, 05:38 PM
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I have used a set of 8 inch 10kg springs with success in the front. I only switched because I needed stronger springs with the slicks I upgraded to. I've still got them if someone wants to buy them.
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07-02-2014, 04:58 AM
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And here I've come to save the day with cheap helper springs: PAC Racing Coilover Tender Springs - Starting at $24.95
2.5" ID options are 3" long x 50 lbs/in, 5"x75#, and 5"x25#. Is there anything wrong with buying the longer 75# spring and cutting it shorter later if it ends up being a problem? I mean, it's a closed end spring, but the flat wire should mean it will still seat properly.
2.5" ID options are 3" long x 50 lbs/in, 5"x75#, and 5"x25#. Is there anything wrong with buying the longer 75# spring and cutting it shorter later if it ends up being a problem? I mean, it's a closed end spring, but the flat wire should mean it will still seat properly.
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07-02-2014, 09:19 AM
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My 7" springs only have 3" stroke and after measuring some others and looking at spec sheets, that seems pretty typical. My MSM Bilsteins have 5" stroke front and 4" rear. About 1/2" of that will be blocked off by the compressed bumpstop, but that still leaves the spring to either dangle at the bottom 1/2" or bind at the top. Even if those aren't ranges of suspension travel that my car will typically see, I'd rather design my car to work properly instead of hoping I never hit a big bump.
Edit: it's actually 4" stroke in the front and 5" in the rear. Pretty much the only springs that have that much travel are as long as the shock itself.
Edit: it's actually 4" stroke in the front and 5" in the rear. Pretty much the only springs that have that much travel are as long as the shock itself.
Hrmmm...
I ended up with 7" springs, MSM Billies, the ghettocat bump stops, and extended top hats. Wonder if i'll be ok.
If front is 4" stroke, springs are 3" stroke... i have 1/2" from bump stop and another 1" from extended top hat. 4 - 1.5 = 2.5 = good?
Rear is 5" stroke. Springs are 3" stroke. 1/2" from bump and 1.5" from extended top hat. 5 - 2 = 3 = good?
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07-02-2014, 11:02 AM
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And here I've come to save the day with cheap helper springs: PAC Racing Coilover Tender Springs - Starting at $24.95
2.5" ID options are 3" long x 50 lbs/in, 5"x75#, and 5"x25#. Is there anything wrong with buying the longer 75# spring and cutting it shorter later if it ends up being a problem? I mean, it's a closed end spring, but the flat wire should mean it will still seat properly.
2.5" ID options are 3" long x 50 lbs/in, 5"x75#, and 5"x25#. Is there anything wrong with buying the longer 75# spring and cutting it shorter later if it ends up being a problem? I mean, it's a closed end spring, but the flat wire should mean it will still seat properly.
Or I could have no idea what I'm talking about
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07-02-2014, 01:22 PM
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The question here is whether you're short enough to actually cause a problem, and I don't have an answer to that. I can tell you that binding and unseating can both cause shock loads on the circlip, though, and we've seen that they can't handle much of that.
I don't see how trimming linear springs could change the spring rate. Wire material and thickness hasn't changed, ID hasn't changed, and wind angle hasn't changed.
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07-02-2014, 02:24 PM
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Apparently you're right. Wizardry and ****. So yeah, cutting the 5" 75# spring down to 3" would make it about 125#
They make things better for droop, but worse for bump. I mean, your shock rod is still going to travel 5", wherever it mounts in the car. There's no lever between it and the spring, so the spring is always going to have to compress exactly the same amount as the shock rod travels.
They make things better for droop, but worse for bump. I mean, your shock rod is still going to travel 5", wherever it mounts in the car. There's no lever between it and the spring, so the spring is always going to have to compress exactly the same amount as the shock rod travels.
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07-02-2014, 05:05 PM
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Now for the big springs. These are the cheapest I've been able to find at $58 shipped for a pair. They've got a decent selection of these, too. Does anyone have a source for cheaper springs stiff enough for the front?
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07-02-2014, 05:29 PM
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Yep, those are cheap. Stance springs from TougeFactory, huh? Makes me want to stick a rusty nail in my eye.
Somebody needs to market some called HellaBoing.
I'll keep getting Summit Racing's house brand for a couple of bucks more.
Somebody needs to market some called HellaBoing.
I'll keep getting Summit Racing's house brand for a couple of bucks more.
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07-08-2014, 11:21 AM
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I'm curious what you guys are using to keep the helper springs seated squarely over the springs (rather than have them moving side to side)
PAC Racing Coilover Tender Springs - Starting at $24.95
PAC Racing Coilover Tender Springs - Starting at $24.95
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07-08-2014, 11:30 AM
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I'm curious what you guys are using to keep the helper springs seated squarely over the springs (rather than have them moving side to side)
PAC Racing Coilover Tender Springs - Starting at $24.95
PAC Racing Coilover Tender Springs - Starting at $24.95
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