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Old 08-10-2008, 02:00 AM   #1
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Hopefully you guys can help me out with some questions, as well as establish a path of future mods since I am not yet too familiar with the suspension of the miata. I know I should first start with the info:
The car is a 99 currently bone stone except for wheels. I am currently in the process of turboing the car. The turbo will hopefully be in the car no later then the end of the month. I am currently daily driving the car and probably will be for another 6 months to a year, but at that point, the car will be a weekend/track car. I want the car to have the best suspension setup possible for road course and autox events, while still maintaining drivability on the streets.
I just recently got a pretty good deal on a new set of Tein HA coilovers. I have not received the coilovers yet, but should be receiving them early next week and I want to have them on the car by the end of next week.. I unfortunately do not know what the spring rates are yet, but I am assuming they are going to be on the lower side. (I have the spring part numbers and will call Tein on Monday.) And now, my questions mixed in with what I think I should do:
I have heard that I am most likely going to need to get a bigger front sway bar and take out my rear, or at least for now, just take out the rear. Which sway bar combo should I go with, and I know its hard to say since I am not sure of which spring rates I will be running... Is it safe to say, for the time being, I will be okay just removing the rear bar?
As far as bump stops? Are they necessary to purchase or should I be okay without them? Speaking of them, I know I cant lower my car too far because it will ride on the bump stops, but what is a good amount to lower the car, in terms of performance? I think visually I want the car maybe an inch lower or so.. but this is very aproximate since its hard for me to picture.
Lastly, knowing that some other cars that I am alot more familar with, corner balancing is really reccomended if not almost required to really have good handling. Is this the case with the miata..? Should I really spend about 400 to get this done? If this is the case, should I wait until I install the heavy turbo components before I corner balance?
I am also definately going to be ordering my roll bar next week, but otherwise what other performance handling stuff should I be getting and in what order? (hopefully most bang for the buck stuff first.)
Thanks alot for your help guys, I really appreciate it.
Henry
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Hopefully you guys can help me out with some questions, as well as establish a path of future mods since I am not yet too familiar with the suspension of the miata. I know I should first start with the info:
The car is a 99 currently bone stone except for wheels. I am currently in the process of turboing the car. The turbo will hopefully be in the car no later then the end of the month. I am currently daily driving the car and probably will be for another 6 months to a year, but at that point, the car will be a weekend/track car. I want the car to have the best suspension setup possible for road course and autox events, while still maintaining drivability on the streets.
I just recently got a pretty good deal on a new set of Tein HA coilovers. I have not received the coilovers yet, but should be receiving them early next week and I want to have them on the car by the end of next week.. I unfortunately do not know what the spring rates are yet, but I am assuming they are going to be on the lower side. (I have the spring part numbers and will call Tein on Monday.) And now, my questions mixed in with what I think I should do:
I have heard that I am most likely going to need to get a bigger front sway bar and take out my rear, or at least for now, just take out the rear. Which sway bar combo should I go with, and I know its hard to say since I am not sure of which spring rates I will be running... Is it safe to say, for the time being, I will be okay just removing the rear bar?
As far as bump stops? Are they necessary to purchase or should I be okay without them? Speaking of them, I know I cant lower my car too far because it will ride on the bump stops, but what is a good amount to lower the car, in terms of performance? I think visually I want the car maybe an inch lower or so.. but this is very aproximate since its hard for me to picture.
Lastly, knowing that some other cars that I am alot more familar with, corner balancing is really reccomended if not almost required to really have good handling. Is this the case with the miata..? Should I really spend about 400 to get this done? If this is the case, should I wait until I install the heavy turbo components before I corner balance?
I am also definately going to be ordering my roll bar next week, but otherwise what other performance handling stuff should I be getting and in what order? (hopefully most bang for the buck stuff first.)
Thanks alot for your help guys, I really appreciate it.
Henry
You should go to miata.net and search/read in the suspension section.
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ZX-tex, Thanks for your help. I will definitely be doing much more of this in the next few days. Some of the things, however, like corner weighting I was not able to get any input on. I might just post a thread over their as well to diversify my responses. This forum here on mt.net doesn’t get as much attention as m.net’s suspension forum gets…
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Nope the suspension forum here is new, and there is more suspension info and interest on miata.net
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Nope the suspension forum here is new, and there is more suspension info and interest on miata.net
Yea, sorry that is what I tried/said in a really twisted and confused way. You gotta love posting quickly, on a blackberry, at work, in between sales .
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