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MFMike 03-22-2017 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1400456)
You are talking about cheap ass miata people. 30 sets up front is a ton, and I think a hard goal to get to. Long term if they have a trans solution also I can see them selling more then that, but it won't be quick and holding inventory sucks.

Tell me about it! lol. Part and parcel of doing business though :(

aidandj 03-22-2017 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1400449)
Thanks for all the information. You also only have 8 sets left in your inventory now. Just ordered a set for myself.

​​​​​​​ Only 7 left.

TurboTim 03-22-2017 10:19 AM

30 sets isn't much. How many sets of wheels does a retailer buy from a supplier? Cast exhaust manifolds? $20k in inventory isn't much. How many EFR's is that? Coilover sets? Carbon bicycles?

What's the better choice: 3.3 diff + installation, 'cheap' T5 and install kit which doesn't exist, usable first for street kids
-or-
6 speed, new innards + installation?

I may be oversimplifying this.

ridethecliche 03-22-2017 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1400456)
You are talking about cheap ass miata people. 30 sets up front is a ton, and I think a hard goal to get to. Long term if they have a trans solution also I can see them selling more then that, but it won't be quick and holding inventory sucks.

This is why I was wondering if the 'bigger' miata companies were interested in jumping onboard. If they were, then you could increase the minimum order, get a better price, and spread the capital required for the sets over a few folks so one person wouldn't be sitting on all the inventory and all the 'risk' to get the order through.

aidandj 03-22-2017 10:31 AM

As stated above, that's what they tried last time. It didn't work.

18psi 03-22-2017 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1400131)
What's his face (Bill?) from MiataRoadster seemed to have what, like 50 people interested before he aborted his quest for getting these to market?
So yeah, I'd say there is interest. But I want someone to actually install/test one of these and tell us all about it first.


Originally Posted by MFMike (Post 1400442)
For what it's worth, whilst there are several factories in Taiwan that have the capability and machines to make hypoid gears, there is only one manufacturer in Taiwan that specialises in the performance aftermarket (for gearing products) and is willing to produce them in small-batch quantities; us (Who are INFINITUDE? - YCW Engineering Ltd Forums). All the other factories are setup for mass-quantity/oem (i.e 500 moq)

I believe that the individual you are talking about (actually, I am almost 100% certain) was the one responsible for us having these 3.3 final drives in the first place. Note that this reply is from our "companies" perspective, NOT our "brand" (i.e MFactory):

1) Said individual contacted both MFactory and one of MFactory's US competitors at the same time
2) As we do not succumb to low-balling, said individual decided to order through the US competitor instead (read the forum link that I posted up above for background info on our "company", not our "brand")
3) The US competitor put the order through for 30 sets (which is our moq), and with all custom orders, we always ship out a prototype first to be tested
4) Said individual installed the prototype, but was not happy with the excessive "noise"
5) Because of this, we decided to have our own US facility (MFactory R&D) install one in an S2000 to see if we got the same results; we did not. What this suggests is that said individual did not shim/setup/install the ring & pinion properly
6) Being a "specialist", said individual refused to acknowledge fault, so cancelled the order with the US competitor (this is based on what the US competitor told us; we did not deal directly with said individual)
7) The US competitor basically being just a trading company, did not have the funds to "take the hit", so decided to also cancel their order with us, thus leaving us with around 15 sets (+/- a couple) of the initial prototype batch (hence the slight lack of "finished look" as mentioned by someone in the comments in this thread)
8) As anyone doing business acknowledges (on the "frontend" anyway), the customer is always right, so we just decided to let it be and not make a fuss out of it, and decided to just add the sets we had left to our online catalog and let them sell by themselves (hence no promotion/marketing)

So unless there is significant interest in proceeding with this "discontinued" project and pushing into the production stage, once the initial batch is sold, there won't be anymore available. FYI, we only have 9 sets left in our inventory.

WOWW I had a feeling this was somehow related, didn't know how close to the jackpot I was. Thanks for sharing.

The remaining units are gonna fly off the shelf lol

ridethecliche 03-22-2017 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1400466)
As stated above, that's what they tried last time. It didn't work.

Ah bummer, welp... I hope this can be something that can be a group buy once these run out....today.

Ted75zcar 03-22-2017 10:56 AM

lol, sounds like my dreams were pretty on point ...

so glad I pulled the trigger on this one!

aidandj 03-22-2017 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1400470)
Ah bummer, welp... I hope this can be something that can be a group buy once these run out....today.

Have you purchased yours?

farpolemiddle 03-22-2017 11:17 AM

Fuck it. Just bought mine. $625 shipped. I am not going to risk missing out on this when used 3.6 are in the 400s. Unless this was a genius sales tactic and they have like 100 on order.

MFMike 03-22-2017 11:41 AM

OEM Part numbers:

http://www.teammfactory.com/images/other/mx5.jpg

aidandj 03-22-2017 11:42 AM

There is an aftermarket solid sleeve available.

Weir Performance - Solid Pinion Spacer Kits

$55

MFMike 03-22-2017 11:44 AM

Was just about to post that up, but you beat me to it :p

aidandj 03-22-2017 11:47 AM

Now we just need an mfactory LSD from you guys too.

MFMike 03-22-2017 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1400486)
Now we just need an mfactory LSD from you guys too.

Upgrade to the MSP axles, and you can run the S2000 fitment :)

aidandj 03-22-2017 11:52 AM

Nobody makes aftermarket MSM axles afaik. And the stockers are not easy to find.

MFMike 03-22-2017 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1400488)
Nobody makes aftermarket MSM axles afaik. And the stockers are not easy to find.

Problem easily solved, but as I'm not a vendor, I need to refrain from posting up sales-related replies :)

Savington 03-22-2017 12:13 PM

Ha, I was going to put mine into a Torsen so I didn't have to pay to have my OSG rebuilt again. Now that I know the gears are essentially irreplaceable, I may build into the OSG so that I don't accidentally break the torsen and trash this R&P :)

Der_Idiot 03-22-2017 12:38 PM

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Wow! I'm glad I looked here when I did. These do exactly what I have been wanting: 5spd shift speeds from my 6spd with an extra gear up top for cruising. I mean, just look at the spreadsheet :o

Looking for a card with some balance free, I really wanted cams but this is too sweet to pass up :party:

Edit; Sav, that's a good point. I need to consider a more stout differential now...

Ted75zcar 03-22-2017 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by MFMike (Post 1400491)
Problem easily solved, but as I'm not a vendor, I need to refrain from posting up sales-related replies :)

become vendor
make stuff
Profit!


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