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Old 12-28-2009, 02:55 PM   #41
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All I need was this answer. You can delete/close/or contiunie this thread as you like. I'm out. Keep up the hard work miata ****. lawl
In other words you don't plan on contributing at all?

See that I have a problem with. I don't care what you want to do to your Miata (although there are better forums for the slammed on bags stuff), but crapping up our forum and then planning on jetting sucks.

You could have used a Google site search and quickly either found your answer, or realized we wouldn't have the expertise you were looking for....all without calling us names.

Good luck at life.


EDIT: Blatant disregard of forum etiqutte is a party foul, regardless of how cool you are on your side of the ISP. Forums only work when a collective abides by a set of rules and contributes. You are forum anarchy.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:16 PM   #42
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Here are some cars on bags.
(pictures of cars)
The first common theme that I note is that most of the vehicles pictured are either station wagons, or their tires are about to fall off.


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You guys also like calling everyone ricers. You drive tiny 2 door convertibles! look at yourself.
Not everyone. We call the folks who drive Kias with airbag suspension dog-eaters.


In all seriousness though, you've come to a forum called MiataTurbo. One has to assume from the name that a majority of the folks who congregate there have more than a passing interest in performance driving. Some of the folks here are in fact track rats, others of us dabble in the occasional autocross, but I'd wager that most simply enjoy driving a fast car to and from our job at the hair salon every day.

The thing is, while "slammed" cars might have their place in the world, they're generally not associated with high-performance driving, be it in an oval, on the street, or a quarter mile at a time. For instance, when I think of all of the OEM applications in which airbag suspension is used, here's what I find:










So you can see where our skepticism is founded, yes?


An interesting question would be: in what racing series is airbag suspension commonly used?

Yes, I know- you're not interested in racing. That's not the point, though. For me, it's a sort of litmus test. Whenever somebody proposes a nontraditional scheme to do "X", I like to ask myself "Are OEMs or serious race teams doing X?" See, if X works, and doesn't require cold fusion or room-temperature semiconductors, then one of those two groups will have already jumped on it.

(Actually, the F1 teams would have jumped on it even if it did require cold fusion.)

So, you identify for me which automobile racing series tend to favor airbag suspension, and I think you'll start to see why you've been greeted the way you have.


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Blatant disregard of forum etiqutte is a party foul, regardless of how cool you are on your side of the ISP. Forums only work when a collective abides by a set of rules and contributes. You are forum anarchy.
^ This.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:28 PM   #43
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Go ask on SCCAForums....or maybe roadraceautox.com

And you are the reason I think VW owners are a bunch of retarded morons. People like you hold them up like your **** don't stick and that having staggered wheels on a FWD car with 205 on a 10" wide rim is cool. But i'm sure you'll come back slinging how having proper fitting wheels with wide tires and going to the track is useless and a waste of time
Yeah..because sports cars were all made to run ******* ovals....dumbass. Have fun over on CR.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:33 PM   #44
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:47 PM   #45
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Yes, I know- you're not interested in racing. That's not the point, though. For me, it's a sort of litmus test. Whenever somebody proposes a nontraditional scheme to do "X", I like to ask myself "Are OEMs or serious race teams doing X?" See, if X works, and doesn't require cold fusion or room-temperature semiconductors, then one of those two groups will have already jumped on it.
I agree 100% when it comes to somethings auto related but there are some notable . OEM aren't known for being as cutting edge as race teams. OEMs are about cost control and off the shelf construction to maximize profit. Race teams are constantly being hamstrung by new class regulations which limit the level of innovation they can bring to the track.

With those 2 major sources of innovation pushed aside there really isn't any other arena where new or old ideas can be repositioned in the market other than the aftermarket. Then lets not forget that any idea which goes against the norm is blasted by purists who feel that the old ways are better. This holds as true for auto mags as it does for forums.

Lets not forget that using turbo charges on gasoline engines was a new concept before WW2 even though they had been invented in 1908. Hell the first production turbo charged car didn't come till the 60's and look at what innovation has followed since those early days.

Sorry to ramble but it's a well studied fact in the field of computer mediated communications, that new ideas in forums are always flamed at first for a number of reasons. After this break-in period, if the person follows through and shares experience it will gain some measure of acceptance over time.

Who knows, this person or someone like him may revolutionize maita performance airbag suspensions. *Edit* maybe not.

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Old 12-28-2009, 04:22 PM   #46
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Miata, VW, etc, the gayness of a street car with an inch of clearance is lost on me.

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Old 12-28-2009, 04:34 PM   #47
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a simple search would've told you wether or not this was the forum for you.

you could stay and maybe learn a thing or two about how miatas arent a hairdressers car, and that it has one of the best suspension systems developed in a production car sold to the general public? if you want airbags, get a lexus ls400. they have them stock.
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why banned? WHY BANNED???!!!
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Unless you guys are hardcore drifters I would sell my "awesome miata" and buy something AWD.
^^ this = *****-***-bitch
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Aw, hell. I was just getting warmed up.
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My daily driver is an LS400 with air bag suspension. Driving it is sort of like going down the road on your living room couch. It's comfortable, quiet and boring. Handling is marshmellow non existent. It suits the Lexus, but their is no way I would want any part of this system on my Miata. It's the exact opposite of performance handling.
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Man that is intelligent humor.
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:13 PM   #54
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about converting the miata to a macpherson strut system...thoughts?
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Only if you do leaf springs in the rear
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Don't forget drum brakes.
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Oh and carburators
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Braineack you should of put a picture of my broken bumper LOL
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You shut your mouth.
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if you do put on the air bags

you gotta get the little velour tassles hanging from the window frames. dat **** is hott.
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