New SuperMiata Sport Clutch
 

We're proud to announce the new made in USA SuperMiata Sport clutch kits for B6 and BP engined Miatas. These have been in development for over two years. The very first prototype actually won E2 and finished 8th overall the 2011 Thunderhill 25 hours in Bellwilliam's Miata "Enzo". I'm not sure he knew he was a clutch test guinea pig :). We also offer lightweight flywheels to make a complete install.

For full details and specs, visit the website.

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Sweet.

Too bad its not for turbo applications

que?

lol I wanted to clarify but already closed the page. 260 crank torque aint much on a turbo car

320 whl torque on the 1.8 ceramic. For those that need more we have this fellow.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1360980636

Dammit Emilio!

I buy cheap ass rims, you release 6UL
I buy FatCat Blisteins, you release XIDA CS
I buy Corrado/Wilwood brake kit, you release SuperMiata Wilwood brake kit
I buy ATI damper, you release SuperMiata Damper
I buy FM clutch kit*, you release SuperMiata Clutch kit

I'm starting to notice a pattern here. I guess for the good of the community, I should go buy a 6 speed? :giggle:

* For the record, nothing wrong with my FM clutch kit, I just thought it was funny.

Any idea how the pedal effort compares to the Flyin Miata Level 1 clutch?

Nope, haven't driven an FM clutch. Pedal is light with ours. The diaphragm spring is thin gauge and heat treated. The gives it the correct spring rate without requiring a lot of force to bring over center. Not every clutch manufacturer uses heat treated diaphragm springs so you'd have to ask them.

Keeping a light pedal was the original impetus for the design actually. I don't mind a heavy pedal myself but virtually every one of my team drivers complained about the heavy effort Race Twin Rental and Crusher. So we did some tweaking to what became the Sport Clutch design to make it closer to stock effort. Goal was for a small female to be able to handle it easily.

I'm guessing there's a torque difference between the 1.6 and 1.8? Website says 260/320 for both.

Doh. Typo.
230 Organic 1.6
260 Ceramic 1.6

Those are conservative numbers. Pretty sure a new clutch, broken in properly will hold a bunch more. We guarantee the cover and disc against failure (not wear) wait for it.. forever.

Inside sources are telling me 949 will be releasing their 7 speed transmission right after you buy a 6 speed. They are also developing an amplifier that goes to 11. :party:

Looks good. out of curiousity what diameter is the organic 1.8 disc 215mm or 225mm?

I need a more comfortable clutch, the F1 stage 3 I have grabs hard but it is getting tiring to drive the car with it.

215

Are those numbers wtq or at the flywheel? Either way, this makes my decision a lot easier, was thinking of splashing out for the FM Happy Meal, but $300 for a proven clutch and possibly a cheap 1.8 flywheel if need be, and I'll be quite happy. I plan on hitting around 200-210whp on my 1.6 and I'd like the lighter pedal feel of the organic, should I bother with a 1.8 flywheel for the extra grab?

edit: looks like wtq from what you posted earlier in this thread, I'm dumb.

I would suggest the 1.8 for a street or autocross car, 1.6 for a track only car.

so they are thrust bearing friendly ? Im assuming you guys looked at thurst wear while testing. was there any noticeable wear ?

Not a criteria I looked at. If thrust bearing wear is a concern, bypass the clutch switch, don't put a weak clutch in it.

I can't believe it's orange.


Thanks for making this.

I would think that the 1.8 would take more abuse, are these backwards?

Track clutch doesnt see the slipping or standing starts a street autocross car will. The higher MOI and surface area of the 1.8 kit makes more sense there.

I love a 1.6 assembly on a street driven 1.8 for the great response and faster shifting but I'm also Ok with the noise and jumpy starts.

:party:

We tested a few production 1.8 pressure plates for clamp load today.

1306# OEM
1610# brand x "level 1" +23%
1972# SuperMiata +51%

Brand X rhyme with Crying a-lotta'?

I love me twin-disc setup. I hope this doesn't mean that's a deprecated product. Nice to have a less expensive option, though!

robert

The twin is still the big dog.

Any other recommendations for an n/a trackcar than the 1.8 organic clutch? I'm using a 1.8 flywheel and I make it a principle not owning 1.6 parts :party: I'll be placing a large order soon then.

The 1.6 clutch spins-up a ton faster. I have one now and will replace it with the 949 budget clutch when the time comes.

If it is not driven on the street and you have the budget, get the twin. Otherwise our 1.8 Sport Clutch - organic sprung hub and light flywheel are the best bet.

Yarp. Anything around here that doesn't get the twin, has a 1.6 clutch/flywheel for that reason. Except William's cars. He likes the slightly heavier 1.8 flywheel on Nemo and Enzo.

As much as I'd like to go baller twin, it's ~1k more than the fancy orange clutch and I just cannot not swing that much right now. My current flywheel is an ACT pro-lite, previously used with a cerametallic 6 puck. Car is still driven on the street (to and from track for 80%) but I don't want to do stop and go traffic with a pucked clutch anymore. I've done it and it got old real fast. If the organic 1.8 will hold anything a built VVT motor can throw at it, that seems the ticket for me

There are puck type designs with organic and other types of friction material. Puck type clutches are not always jerky, copper or metal friction materials usually are.

You want the organic, solid hub 1.6 clutch. I have an ancient Spec aluminum plate/fidanza set-up now and I'm very happy with it, but I'll replace it with my suggestion above when that time comes. It will also be orange.

Shit, I just accidentally looked at a Giken on the 949 site, again. Must go to gym now, TTYL. :cry:

Well, just bought a 1.6 organic for my car, will report back when I have it in :*

Got mine too, organic disc w/ unsprung hub. Looks pretty to me. Dropping off the pressure plate at the machine shop in a few minutes.

jst purchased the standard organic sprung hub. hopefully this holds my 215wtq. probably pushing it. thoughts? should i just bump up to the ceramic? car is daily driven and sees abuse every now and then.

1.8 should be fine. Near the limits of the 1.6 version. Ceramic handles that easily even with the 1.6

Emilio,

Any idea when the 1.6 clutches will be back in stock?

now

just installed. still have some breaking in to do. had the FM stage 1 before. Overall the SuperMiata clutch has a bit stiffer pedal feel than the FM. but its a stiffness that I personally like. not too stiff but definitely makes the car feel "sportier". Can still daily drive with ease.

why'd you pull the FM1?

hey any warranty issues if my ballancer guy grinds down some of the pressure plate? even though it already happened still want to know how that would work out for me if something happens to the pressure plate. btw it was off balance a good amount if anyone wants to know.

I guess we will have to cross that bridge if we come to it.

Did you contact 949 Racing before getting it "fixed"?

^of course not. Im more worried about having a balanced setup than having to buy a clutch kit again.

Got my 1.6 clutch in. I need to adjust the pedal because the engagement is pretty close to the ground compared to the OEM clutch and the BMW. Very easy to drive, Emilio's comment about the effort is spot-on. Curious about what a proper break-in for this clutch would be though. Turns out my OEM clutch was indeed slipping at 10-11psi, car feels a good bit faster now. Going to turn up the boost in a bit.

How was the balancing checked? Was the whole rotating assembly balanced or are you just checking the pressure plate and flywheel?

How is drivability with the sprung ceramic 1.8 size disc? Lots of chatter and grabby-ness?

I guess compounding is different between manufacturers (maybe break in is the difference), but sometimes pucked clutches are miserable, and some times they're transparent. I can put up with a lot of unpleasentness in a street car, but a chattery/ grabby clutch is not one of them...

Sprung puck is not bad, quiet too. Rigid puck is very abrupt, and also allows the trans internal noise to be fed up the body.. noisy.

We only recommend rigid hubs for race only, trailered cars.

Honestly, I can deal with the transmission harmonic noise, but a chattery/ grabby clutch makes me want to set the car on fire. I wouldn't buy an unsprung disc for a street car, but I have used them before and I don't find them too offensive.

From what I've read here, it sounds like for my mildly nodded mazdaspeed (intake, and exhaust, intercooler), the supermiata organic 1.6 with the lightened flywheel you sell is the way to go.

Never thought using components for the 1.6 would be an "upgrade."

Would love the race, but can think of other uses for the extra $400.

The entire rotating assemble was balanced.

Flywheel was balanced alone. then all the fasteners and the pressure plate were bolted together with the flywheel. then the pressure plate gets ground to make the assembly balanced again.

i put my car together today and i have to say this clutch was the biggest pain in my ass. the disk wouldnt slide onto the trans input shaft. ended up pulling the engine back out and filing some of the splines.

finally got it to work. drove it briefly. felt nice. might adjust the pedal a little more. Effort is low but not quite oem but still light compared to some other cars iv driven.

In other news, the website says these things are back ordered. How long until I can molest one for myself?

1.8 kits due here Tuesday.

What's the ETA on the 1.6 organics? This is apparently a Christmas present for this old man.

I've considered the 1.8, but I've also dyno'd at 185whp/155wtq, and don't plan on anything more than 200whp. I've already got a lightened stock 1.6 flywheel.

I'll be incredibly happy when I get rid of my rigid ceramic. He's spot on with his description of noise and gabbiness. Hate it.

Hopefully next week.

Also waiting for a 1.6 organic for a buddies car. We need sway bars, clutch line, and the clutch.

Add another one to that list of 1.6 clutches. Im sure you're annoyed by my constant inquiries by now, but they always seem to sell out as soon as im ready to make payment.

Hoping to get this motor in before New Years and the clutch is the only thing im waiting on.

Imma just going to back order it, instead of waiting and sniping one when they get into stock. Hope this isn't a retarded idea Emilio.

Edit: whoops, looks like that isn't an option on 949's site.

^^I was gonna say, Id do that in a heartbeat if that was an option.

Anyone care to trade my 1.8 unsprung ceramic disc for a sprung hub ceramic? I figured my stuff is easier to sell if the clutch isn't a total ---- to drive on the daily.

I love my 1.6 organic <3.