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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 08:27 PM
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I've been thinking about throttle blips on downshifts and came up with a fairly simple idea. Since I already have compressed air onboard I may as well use the small air cylinders I ebayed when I started the project.

I'm using the air cylinders to push the throttle cable outer sleave backwards to open the throttle plate. They have enough strength to punch open the throttle nice and fast and will return to a closed position under the spring power from the throttle. This should work so that if the shift controller loses power or there is air pressure loss, I'm not going to be ontrack with a throttle that is stuck open. It also means I can have my foot on the throttle and the blip will just add some extra throttle without too much feedback through the pedal... I think.

The next step is to hook it up to the arduino shift controller and start decoding the CANbus so that I can test how responsive it is. I'll wire up a button on the dash that will trigger a throttle blip up to a set rpm, say 6000 and try to hold there by cycling the pneumatics on and off. This will test both the speed of the cylinders and the delay from reading the CANbus rpm. (It should be 20ms)
Old Jan 22, 2019 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Madjak
I've been thinking about throttle blips on downshifts and came up with a fairly simple idea. Since I already have compressed air onboard I may as well use the small air cylinders I ebayed when I started the project.

I'm using the air cylinders to push the throttle cable outer sleave backwards to open the throttle plate. They have enough strength to punch open the throttle nice and fast and will return to a closed position under the spring power from the throttle. This should work so that if the shift controller loses power or there is air pressure loss, I'm not going to be ontrack with a throttle that is stuck open. It also means I can have my foot on the throttle and the blip will just add some extra throttle without too much feedback through the pedal... I think.

The next step is to hook it up to the arduino shift controller and start decoding the CANbus so that I can test how responsive it is. I'll wire up a button on the dash that will trigger a throttle blip up to a set rpm, say 6000 and try to hold there by cycling the pneumatics on and off. This will test both the speed of the cylinders and the delay from reading the CANbus rpm. (It should be 20ms)
Nice idea, just make sure the cable end doesn’t unseat from the gas pedal when it suddenly retracts
Old Jan 22, 2019 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by themonkeyman
Nice idea, just make sure the cable end doesn’t unseat from the gas pedal when it suddenly retracts
yeah, I'll just have to see how it works in car. This design relies on the throttle spring pulling it closed as soon as the pneumatics are turned off which should keep tension on the cable the whole time. The s90 throttle body has a really strong throttle spring so I think it should work ok.

My other design was a rotary cam sitting over the throttle wheel that engages a pin that sits in a slotted hole in the throttle wheel. When the cam rotates it pulls the throttle open with it but allows the throttle to rotate independently. I could then drive the cam wheel via a thottle cable and remote pneumatic air cylinder, but this would have created the loose throttle cable problem you mention and also the potential for it to bind and jam. So I went back to my first idea which looks fairly inelegant but it's nice and simple and safe. The only issue I can see will be rubbing the throttle cable on things as it moves forwards and backwards.
Old Jan 22, 2019 | 09:19 PM
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Use a set screw to secure the cable housing to the mount/socket
Old Jul 18, 2023 | 02:26 PM
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Where did you bought those 2x3 position air cylinders?
Old Aug 15, 2023 | 08:53 PM
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Well, that's one way to revive a 4 year dormant thread....
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