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Old 10-12-2017, 04:11 PM   #81
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Lars' ACE:

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External reservoirs? Are those specific to the ACE?
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External reservoirs? Are those specific to the ACE?
I am pretty sure they are specific to BALLARS!!
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All NA/NB ACE have reservoirs. This allows us to keep the stroke within a few mm of the XL. The ACE valve takes up some space which is why we couldn't make it work on the shorter Xida Race.

The ND has enough space to add the valve without losing stroke and keeping the right pressure balance, That 's basically fluid volume vs nitrogen volume with the compression ration factored in. Too much pressure rise adversely affects damping quality, manifesting as hysteresis. Greatly simplified, that's jittering over small bumps instead of soaking them up the way Xidas are famous for.
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Old 10-25-2017, 04:19 PM   #86
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Production parts for Xida GS have arrived!

Xida XL dampers.
550/350 main and tender springs in a medium grey.
Supermiata NB style upper mounts in Orange™.
Upper spring perch adapters, bushings and hardware included.

As seen, for $1799.

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I realized I have no idea on how to mount the remote reservoirs.
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Reservoirs are happiest on the sprung mass, the chassis. Not the control arms. Rear sway bar with hose clamps works. In front, the hoses are long enough to reach the frame rails. Self tappers and a pipe bracket from HDM
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Reservoirs are happiest on the sprung mass, the chassis. Not the control arms. Rear sway bar with hose clamps works. In front, the hoses are long enough to reach the frame rails. Self tappers and a pipe bracket from HDM
Thanks. I got the shocks in. Tomorrow I worry about mounting the resivours. Getting started on the wiring tonight. Also I should expect to have to zip tie the hoses some to keep them from contacting the wheel right.
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Depends on how you orient the hoses. We plan to make a short video about the reservoirs. The hoses and banjos can both be clocked individually.

The banjo rotates on it's mounting stud.
The crimped part of the hose is separate from the banjo. The crimped portion can be grasped with pliers and gently rotated relative to the banjo. Do that slowly.

Thus you can orient the hose to avoid contact and get the canisters lined up the way you want.
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Emilio,
Do you guys have any plans for another garage sale mid or late November? Would be fun to mingle, trade and check out new parts. If there was a chance to get sense of what Xidas feel like on the street that would be super cool.
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Do you guys have any plans for another garage sale mid or late November? Would be fun to mingle, trade and check out new parts. If there was a chance to get sense of what Xidas feel like on the street that would be super cool.
Probably no garage sale until January. We will publicize the date as we always do. You can come by anytime for a demo ride. Just schedule it with us ahead of time, via email or phone.

Truthfully, it's a bit undramatic. The ride is as soft as anything ever built for a Miata, the car is stable and responsive. We use the word "bloop" around the shop to describe how it absorbs huge expansion joints. The only real indication of the severity being the sound the tires make.. 'bloop"
We show you
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Interesting video from the recent PRI show discussing the Tractive ACE technology. Cutting edge stuff. Watch for the brief clip of the RP968 going into turn 1 at SMP. Unreal.

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So all that info supplied in the video apply to what goes in your whole ACE line? If so, that is fantastic! I will be ordering soon.
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They are using a much more sophisticated control box/system with that car, because of the extra sensors they have designed in. More like what the upcoming DSC Sport box will have the capability to do.

A 90-05 Miata does not have individual wheel ride height sensors or on board GPS track position, so not ALL of the info in that video about the million dollar World Time Attack application is applicable to ours, but it is still very, very cool stuff.
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Shock is the same. As Dan alluded to, the difference is how many and what type of sensor data you feed into your DSC box. The more data, the more fine tuning you can do. Just a simple 10hz external GPS sensor or serial stream from a logger along with G sensors is huge though. You can do a lot with just that.
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I took my first drive around my neighborhood today. The Ace's felt great from the quick drive. So smooth on the crappy roads in my neighborhood.
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Piling on the ACE love...

I've had a set of pre-pre-production XIDA ACE dampers on my K-swapped One Lap Miata for a year and a half now. In short, they are MAGIC!

Driving around on the highway with the DDA turned to full soft and pitch/roll turned way up is positively sublime. On 2, its becomes a lot more sporty for the twisties...and dialed up on track it is simply amazing. I especially like being able to tweak the settings for testing while on long straights. Sure saves having to pit in, get out, pop the hood/trunk and twiddle *****...or crawl under the car.

Expensive? Sure. Worth every penny to me, though.

My requirements are really tough for any damper to handle. One Lap of America is 3500-ish highway miles, sometimes over really crappy roads, plus a variety of track types every day for a week. Some bumpy, some smooth, some value curb-hopping, some don't. Hard for one damper to do it all, but this setup is perfect for it.

The control box fits neatly within the confines of the center console, so only the control fob gives away your secret. That, and the wires extending from your shock tops.

Note that mine were an early, early design based on the short length XIDA body...lots of lessons learned there.

After hearing of my experience, local guy (Eric Hyman) one-upped with the DSC setup on his SM GTR monster...I've seen the software and it's pretty damned amazing.







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We've updated the pricing structure for NA/NB Xidas and, maybe most importantly, dropped the price of GS by ~$60.

Xida GS $1669 default. $1729 with NB mounts. Fixed spring rates.
Xida Race $1919 default. Add NB mounts for $100, Billet Coaxials for $322, Delete dual springs for -$220. Optional spring rates.
Xida XL $1919 default. Add NB mounts for $100, Billet Coaxials for $322, Delete dual springs for -$220. Optional spring rates.
Xida ACE $3869 default. Add NB mounts for $100, Billet Coaxials for $322. Optional spring rates.

By making the dual spring systems default on Race and XL it better showcases the GS' value with the included tender setup.

A Xida system for $1729 that is capable of nearly anything you can do with a miata. They may not be optimized for lap records like Races, or as cadiillac soft as ACEs, but they're the best value we can offer.

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