Track crew: GB feeler for 11.75" rotor bracket for Wilwood Dynalite calipers
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Track crew: GB feeler for 11.75" rotor bracket for Wilwood Dynalite calipers
Group Buy Pricing for package deals is as follows:
Brackets only - $149, $49 deposit due
-TSE brackets only, no hardware
Brackets + Rotors - $499, $125 deposit due <-- Upgrade package for our current BBK customers
-TSE brackets
-Wilwood rotors (rings, hats, and hardware)
Brackets, Calipers, Lines, and hardware - $499, $125 deposit due
-TSE brackets
-TSE hardware and lines
-Wilwood Dynalite calipers
Full Kit - $839, $205 deposit due
-TSE brackets
-TSE hardware and lines
-Wilwood Dynalite calipers
-Wilwood rotors (rings, hats, and hardware)
Full Kit w/ pads - $899, $225 deposit due
-All of the above, plus..
-One set of Hawk DTC-70 or Hawk HP+ brake pads
If I have quoted you a higher figure in PM, ignore it.
Deposits are nonrefundable. Group buy pricing will apply through January 31st, at which point all prices will go up by at least $50-100. Send deposits to info at trackspeed engineering dot com. Be sure to include what package you are purchasing as well as a shipping address.
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I've mentioned this privately to a couple of folks but I'm throwing it out there for all the track junkies to see. Posting it in here vs. the GB section to make sure all the track junkies see it.
Wilwood offers an 11.75x.810 front rotor ring that's bigger than the Corrado rotors most of us are using, and correctly vented as well. The hats are $125/side initiailly, but the benefit is a friction ring that is CHEAP to replace, like $31 retail cheap. This is less than I pay for Corrado rotors right now.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/?...160-0471&dds=1
I have 4 people including myself that have expressed interest in a setup like this. It will be identical to our current kit, except the design of the bracket will change a bit to meet the larger rotor. If you don't have the calipers/lines already, I can do a package deal as well, just contact me separately.
These should clear 15x9 +36 6ULs, I am not sure about any other wheel as of yet.
The more people I can get in on the buy, the cheaper they get (obviously). If we don't get a LOT of interest this will likely be a single-run product unlike our other group buys. Pricing will depend on how many folks we can get, but don't expect to pay less than ~$200-250 for a set. I'd like to offer them for what our current 11" Corrado brackets cost ($170/set) but not if I lose money doing it. Low-quantity high-quality CNC aluminum brackets aren't cheap. :(
If I can get like 6-7 people I will have the drawing done and sent out for an actual quote.
Who's in for cheap big-*** rotors?
0. Sir Curly
1. Savington
2. hustler
3. dtfastbear
4. Kotomile
5. jasonb
6. genesplicer
7. rharris
8. doward
Brackets only - $149, $49 deposit due
-TSE brackets only, no hardware
Brackets + Rotors - $499, $125 deposit due <-- Upgrade package for our current BBK customers
-TSE brackets
-Wilwood rotors (rings, hats, and hardware)
Brackets, Calipers, Lines, and hardware - $499, $125 deposit due
-TSE brackets
-TSE hardware and lines
-Wilwood Dynalite calipers
Full Kit - $839, $205 deposit due
-TSE brackets
-TSE hardware and lines
-Wilwood Dynalite calipers
-Wilwood rotors (rings, hats, and hardware)
Full Kit w/ pads - $899, $225 deposit due
-All of the above, plus..
-One set of Hawk DTC-70 or Hawk HP+ brake pads
If I have quoted you a higher figure in PM, ignore it.
Deposits are nonrefundable. Group buy pricing will apply through January 31st, at which point all prices will go up by at least $50-100. Send deposits to info at trackspeed engineering dot com. Be sure to include what package you are purchasing as well as a shipping address.
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I've mentioned this privately to a couple of folks but I'm throwing it out there for all the track junkies to see. Posting it in here vs. the GB section to make sure all the track junkies see it.
Wilwood offers an 11.75x.810 front rotor ring that's bigger than the Corrado rotors most of us are using, and correctly vented as well. The hats are $125/side initiailly, but the benefit is a friction ring that is CHEAP to replace, like $31 retail cheap. This is less than I pay for Corrado rotors right now.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/?...160-0471&dds=1
I have 4 people including myself that have expressed interest in a setup like this. It will be identical to our current kit, except the design of the bracket will change a bit to meet the larger rotor. If you don't have the calipers/lines already, I can do a package deal as well, just contact me separately.
These should clear 15x9 +36 6ULs, I am not sure about any other wheel as of yet.
The more people I can get in on the buy, the cheaper they get (obviously). If we don't get a LOT of interest this will likely be a single-run product unlike our other group buys. Pricing will depend on how many folks we can get, but don't expect to pay less than ~$200-250 for a set. I'd like to offer them for what our current 11" Corrado brackets cost ($170/set) but not if I lose money doing it. Low-quantity high-quality CNC aluminum brackets aren't cheap. :(
If I can get like 6-7 people I will have the drawing done and sent out for an actual quote.
Who's in for cheap big-*** rotors?
0. Sir Curly
1. Savington
2. hustler
3. dtfastbear
4. Kotomile
5. jasonb
6. genesplicer
7. rharris
8. doward
Last edited by curly; 01-27-2011 at 09:36 PM.
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If this setup will clear 15x9 6ULs, should it not also clear the 15x8s? Not sure how much of a shoehorn job this is. Reason I ask is that my car will still be street driven, so I'll be running NT01s on 9s for the track but want to keep my 8s shod with a more street-friendly tire, so whatever I do for brakes ideally would fit under the 8s as well.
Can you PM me a price/breakdown for the whole shebang assuming you get these made... brackets, calipers, associated mounting hardware, hats, rotors, lines.
Whatever I end up doing will involve a two-piece hat & rotor, so if the 11.75" setup fits under 8s then I suppose I will get to weigh the cost/benefit of your stuff versus the new-ish 11" two-piece Wilwood kit that 949 & Goodwin are selling. Because I think that's my other contender at this point.
Can you PM me a price/breakdown for the whole shebang assuming you get these made... brackets, calipers, associated mounting hardware, hats, rotors, lines.
Whatever I end up doing will involve a two-piece hat & rotor, so if the 11.75" setup fits under 8s then I suppose I will get to weigh the cost/benefit of your stuff versus the new-ish 11" two-piece Wilwood kit that 949 & Goodwin are selling. Because I think that's my other contender at this point.
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Scott, you'll have a PM in a second. This really isn't meant to compete with the 11" Wilwood setup, I can't sell an 11.75" setup at cost for the retail price of the new Wilwood kit. If you think an 11" rotor will do the trick and higher replacement costs don't bug you, get one of the new Wilwood kits from Emilio. I want the cheap 11.75s because I've thrown away 4 or 5 sets of Corrado rotors this year due to cracking/warping/grooving and I need something that's flat out bigger.
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Got your PM, thanks.
No, of course I understand that. And for the price you're talking, I'm leaning towards 11.75" stuff despite the higher initial outlay, not only for lower rotor costs, but also to just start with as much brake as I can fit under the wheels with hopefully as much thermal capacity as I can ever see myself using in this car, and not worry about it again. It's me wanting 11.75" stuff, if it will fit under 15x8 6ULs, which I don't believe you've answered yet. C'mon, you're in Kali, 6ULs be flowin there like water from the hills, mock it up for a brotha. Hustlicker is on your list and purports to drive his car on the street; is he ballin harder than I thought and actually driving to work on his 9s and NT01s?
Without turning this into a [your 11.75" stuff] versus the Wilwood 11" kits, I'll just ask... how much of your Corrado rotor fail do you think is attributable to the rotor's inadequate design (shitty venting) versus its mere size?
There should be more interest in this thread, because you're all a bunch of filthy liars if you say you're not feeling genitally inadequate for running anything smaller than bbundy's 11.75" rotors.
If you think an 11" rotor will do the trick...
There should be more interest in this thread, because you're all a bunch of filthy liars if you say you're not feeling genitally inadequate for running anything smaller than bbundy's 11.75" rotors.
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Sent you a PM Sav.
Also what are the chances of setting up a bracket for the rear? Since i'm running my proportioning valve wide open on the stock 1.8 setup, what options are available for the rear?
Also what are the chances of setting up a bracket for the rear? Since i'm running my proportioning valve wide open on the stock 1.8 setup, what options are available for the rear?
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M-Tuned already makes a bracket for running 1.8 rear calipers on a 10.9" Sport rotor. You can also grab the entire Sport caliper to go along with the larger rotor. I'll probably end up with the M-Tuned pieces.
Bias should be perfect with an 11.75" front and a 10.9" rear rotor - my current bias is essentially perfect and going from 11"/1.8 rear to 11.75"/10.9" rotors shifts bias rearward by 1%.
Trey and I have both tried the Racing Brake replacement rotors (at $100/pop shipped). I destroyed my set quickly, and Trey cracked one of his recently as well. That leads me to believe that it's size vs. shitty venting.
Bias should be perfect with an 11.75" front and a 10.9" rear rotor - my current bias is essentially perfect and going from 11"/1.8 rear to 11.75"/10.9" rotors shifts bias rearward by 1%.
Trey and I have both tried the Racing Brake replacement rotors (at $100/pop shipped). I destroyed my set quickly, and Trey cracked one of his recently as well. That leads me to believe that it's size vs. shitty venting.
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So if i were to get in on it, this is essentially just a new bracket w/ centering ring for said larger rotors (that are also cheaper than corrados?) These would be using the same willwood calipers and pads that are used in TSE's BBK already?
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wow, thats too good to pass up. i'm in.
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It's me wanting 11.75" stuff, if it will fit under 15x8 6ULs, which I don't believe you've answered yet. C'mon, you're in Kali, 6ULs be flowin there like water from the hills, mock it up for a brotha. Hustlicker is on your list and purports to drive his car on the street; is he ballin harder than I thought and actually driving to work on his 9s and NT01s?
This might also cure problems associated with rotor warpage with heat. After I track my car, my rotors only wear on the inner and outter side of the outboard surface, which tells me they are changing shape with heat.
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So I can get these brackets and throw my old TSE brackets away? How much lighter are these rotors compared to the corrado rotors?
Will offset change much? I'd need to know if they'd clear my wheels as the current TSE BBK does.
Will offset change much? I'd need to know if they'd clear my wheels as the current TSE BBK does.
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There are far more rotor ring options in the 11.75" size. Straight vanes, curved vanes, multiple manufacturers, suppliers, outlets, etc. It's a far more common size than 11". The 11.75" size has more developement, racing time and greatly decreased cost. It's a winner all the way around if the Dynalite will fit over it and clear your wheels.
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There are far more rotor ring options in the 11.75" size. Straight vanes, curved vanes, multiple manufacturers, suppliers, outlets, etc. It's a far more common size than 11". The 11.75" size has more developement, racing time and greatly decreased cost. It's a winner all the way around if the Dynalite will fit over it and clear your wheels.
The cheap $30 Ultra Light 11.75” ones actually seem to work pretty good. And they are lighter than the curved vane HD rotors. The only thing I didn’t like about them was my dyna-pro pads sweep out a slightly larger surface area than the cheap rotors had avalialble so they would develop a lip where they hung over the inside of the friction ring. They also tended to run a little hotter than curved vane HD versions and they start to show the small cracks much sooner.
My opinion is I like the cruved vane HD rotors better. And anything with slots felt like garbage. No slots for me. I am currently running curved vane rotors from Coleman Racing and they seem to be the most durable I have tried.
Bob
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M-Tuned already makes a bracket for running 1.8 rear calipers on a 10.9" Sport rotor. You can also grab the entire Sport caliper to go along with the larger rotor. I'll probably end up with the M-Tuned pieces.
Bias should be perfect with an 11.75" front and a 10.9" rear rotor - my current bias is essentially perfect and going from 11"/1.8 rear to 11.75"/10.9" rotors shifts bias rearward by 1%.
Trey and I have both tried the Racing Brake replacement rotors (at $100/pop shipped). I destroyed my set quickly, and Trey cracked one of his recently as well. That leads me to believe that it's size vs. shitty venting.
Bias should be perfect with an 11.75" front and a 10.9" rear rotor - my current bias is essentially perfect and going from 11"/1.8 rear to 11.75"/10.9" rotors shifts bias rearward by 1%.
Trey and I have both tried the Racing Brake replacement rotors (at $100/pop shipped). I destroyed my set quickly, and Trey cracked one of his recently as well. That leads me to believe that it's size vs. shitty venting.
Much better match for an 11.75” front.
Bob
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Or you could just sell them.
Originally Posted by Oscar
Will offset change much? I'd need to know if they'd clear my wheels as the current TSE BBK does.
Originally Posted by bbundy
rear brakes, etc
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Track tested is what I mean. With the corrado brackets my 15x8 gen1 6uls rubbed the dynalite caliper in one spot on the track on the driver's side.