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Old 10-19-2012, 10:43 AM   #41
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That's nice. I guess we will all throw away our mountains of empirical evidence and lap times and just do what feels right
I was simply saying that, IMHO, 14 are better for a daily use and 15 are better for track use (or for those who can mostly drive it on smooth asphalt and on fast roads. I am not among them)

I personally drive it on mountain twisty roads (sometimes with a bad asphalt) around the como lake (I live in Italy) where 14 give a much better driving experience. My two cents, anyway
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I am completely fucked with my 17s.
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I am completely fucked with my 17s.
They will bring a premium at Racewarz.
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I want two premiums.
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That's nice. I guess we will all throw away our mountains of empirical evidence and lap times and just do what feels right
I drove my broke down, piece of **** on 13x5s on a mountain road and it felt faster than 15x10s on 275 R80s, it was clearly faster on the 13s.
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On wheelweights.net you can find size and weight of practically every wheel manufacturer.

I disagree with those who say grip is always preferable.

I currently have 15x7 on my slightly lowered miata but recently I tested it with oem 14x6 enkei's that are much lighter and narrower and the car was simply amazing. I love the way it flows on the road, the way it gently looses traction and the kind of involvement it provides with smaller wheels.

Indeed, I am going to fit some watanabe 14x6,5 wheels I just got from UK!!
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:29 AM   #48
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All these ClubRoadster betas need to go back to their mom's basements and get off our forum of extreme masculinity. Most of these little-boys desperately need testosterone therapy.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:46 AM   #49
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I'm still layin low..

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But I effed myself when I was autocrossing my FD on my 17s when I had perfectly able 15s at my disposal.

Not to mention cheaper tires... and extra money = faster... eventually
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Do 15s even work on FDs? I run the 16x8 FD wheels on my MX6, and it's actually limiting what i can do to the car in terms of brakes.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:53 AM   #51
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Yeah, those BBS ones the site you linked to also said they've gotten reports from 8.5 lbs to 10.6 lbs and I was wondering if anybody's actually weighed theirs but it sounds like if they are basically unobtainium then it is probably a moot point.

Thanks again for the many details and your thoughts on the other options!
I weighed the BBS that came off my black and tan at 10.1lbs on the UPS shipping scale before shipping them to Pennsylvania (for nearly $500) to an RX7 & Miata owner whose RX7 came stock with the 15" version.

I've found sets locally at a little over $300 for the 14" version, but they usually go for more. The 15" (RX7) version usually goes for twice that. I've never had a lighter wheel on the Miata, and they did "feel" differently. I immediately missed that feeling, and regretted selling them, even though my next wheels were semi-hollows.

However, for the money, there are much better options out there. Hard to get down to that weight, but with the aftermarket options you get a wider wheel which allows you to run a tire that gets some semblance of traction at 220 turbocharged whp. My car was an absolutely iceskate while turbo on every set of stock wheels I ever ran.

If you do find a set of clean BBS at a decent price they are a NICE wheel. No need to knock them besides the varying weight accounts and their prized status by the wine and cheesers. There is a reason they're sought after though. I firmly believe they were the best stock wheel ever fitted to the Miata in regards to handling and ride.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:57 AM   #52
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Yes.. they fit young padawan.
15" wheels for FD drag racing, do they fit? - RX7Club.com

minor grinding is required, but it's hardly anything major. I never used my 15s because they were ugly as sin. Would have saved me a chunk on tires just sticking to those. **** costs me like 1100 bucks to ship decent tires out here for 17s

are your 16x8s the factory wheel? Or the RZ option wheels?
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Yes.. they fit young padawan.
15" wheels for FD drag racing, do they fit? - RX7Club.com

minor grinding is required, but it's hardly anything major. I never used my 15s because they were ugly as sin. Would have saved me a chunk on tires just sticking to those. **** costs me like 1100 bucks to ship decent tires out here for 17s

are your 16x8s the factory wheel? Or the RZ option wheels?
Factory wheel. 93-spec, so the lightest ones. I suppose they could belong in this thread, i don't know of many lighter 16x8s.

Unfortunately, they won't fit over the Mazdaspeed6 brakes i kindof want to put on the car.

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Old 10-19-2012, 12:14 PM   #54
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Pretty sure my BBS RZ wheels are lighter.. 0.0
I mean, I don't have weights or anything, but they are extremely light. Although not a fan of the staggered set up. (16x8 and 16x8.5)
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Give them to me for free.
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Already sold them bro.
and free... hah, cute
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Then no care. It's my DD, no money will be spent on it.
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I drove my broke down, piece of **** on 13x5s on a mountain road and it felt faster than 15x10s on 275 R80s, it was clearly faster on the 13s.
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I am completely fucked with my 17s.
Not really. Ask bbundy how I did vs him at the FM Summer Cap a few years ago..I wsa on 17"sw/slicks. My only problem with them is tire selection. While the V710s a super nice, I want more options.
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I have 15 by 7 inch IFG forged mags( international foreign group based out of Eureka Ca)
Herb money based company in humboldt co Ca that is no longer in existence. They have been very streetable with 205/50/15 azeni's. The rims weigh 8.0 pounds each. They are one off forged mag proto types from an old Russian aerospace foundry. Originally 9 were maid. I have the last 4 in the wourld. They were $1200 a piece before polishing and powder coating. Very light very sexy and alot of fun. Spin up sooo easy with 1.6 eng to keepin the power band.(lots of enkies also ect.. etc..)

I also have a set of Italian mags off a 2002 tii alpina. 13 by 6 or 5-1/2 not sure on weight very light but have 235/45/13 race rubber on them. Hustler was talking before about his smaller rims feeling faster. The smaller diameter rim and tire combo changes the gearing making it easier to excelerate in a worn out used up car. The race rubber would also be harder to spin up because of stick and alot of added weight.

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Ten pounds on a 13 by 7 rim vs ten pound rims on a 15 by 7 rim are not equal. How so you say? The centrifugal force on the 15 takes more power/ torque to spin up then the 13-7.
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