Wheels and Tires All things related to Miata Wheels and Tires.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Tire Wear Questions

Old 05-20-2018, 08:34 PM
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 24
Total Cats: 1
Default Tire Wear Questions

Have 3 track days and maybe a hundred or two street miles on these new Dunlop Direzza ZIII's. Previous had the zII Star Specs, they lasted probably 10k street miles and probably 10 track days before they were completely done. I feel like these ZIII's are not at all going to live as long. Granted, 2 of the 3 days were at a track known to eat tires, and all three were in ~ 90F temps. Running 35 PSI hot. I have a full season of track days under my belt, but still drive towards the front of the Novice group (our org has only 3 classes). Car is essentially stock, minus better brakes and cooling.

Would appreciate if anyone can take a look at the pics, these are the front tires. The middle piece of tread is much more worn towards one edge than the other. There's quite a bit of missing rubber, visible as little "craters". At least some of the missing rubber looks like it goes pretty far down. There's an odd strip of rubber along one edge too - you can see me holding it up in the picture. The outside edge of the tire is also a noticeably different color than the rest of the tread.

My main question - Is this typical wear, and appears accelerated because I'm actually using the tires now, or is something wrong? Car has had a recent alignment, as best it can get with all stock suspension. Maybe 35 PSI is way too high? I'm seeing wear down into the little triangles on the side, so I'm afraid to go much lower. Could my 18 year old stock suspension that's essentially bumpstop-less be the cause?
Attached Thumbnails Tire Wear Questions-2018-05-20-13.45.10.jpg   Tire Wear Questions-2018-05-20-13.45.42.jpg   Tire Wear Questions-2018-05-20-13.46.36.jpg   Tire Wear Questions-2018-05-20-13.46.43.jpg   Tire Wear Questions-2018-05-20-13.46.45.jpg  

maplewood is offline  
Old 05-20-2018, 09:28 PM
Senior Member
Schroedinger's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 566
Total Cats: 113

I’m far from an expert, but your suspension probably isn’t doing you any favors with that much tire. I’m running less tire than you, 320tw Sport Comp 2’s in 195/55/15), and I re-did my suspension with Bilstein shocks and FM springs (2x stock spring rate). Running toward the front of the novice pack, I get on the bumpstops pretty often. If your bump stops are shot, you’re probably way deep in the suspension travel with bad geometry. I was actually thinking that when I move up to 200tw tires, I might need more spring than I have.
Schroedinger is offline  
Old 05-20-2018, 10:23 PM
Elite Member
iTrader: (15)
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,030
Total Cats: -111

Suggestions: update your suspension with rebuilt billies and coil over sleeves, build an alignment string setup, buy a probe type tire pyrometer.

Without the pyrometer, you really dont know if your alignment settings are working for you, then you have the string setup to measure your alignment adjustments, and good shocks and proper rate springs for your tire grip...

Maybe get a sleeve kit from sadfab and put energy bushings and grease fittings in all the control arms, that way alignment settings stay put during load, and you probably need to do them anyways
thumpetto007 is offline  
Old 05-21-2018, 08:20 AM
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Phoenix Az
Posts: 14
Total Cats: 0

You need more camber or stiffer springs to reduce body roll.
Clifton is offline  
Old 05-21-2018, 11:33 PM
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 24
Total Cats: 1

Makes sense, thanks for the advice guys. Just got seats and harnesses, working on cooling (reroute, hood vents, already have better rad), and will tackle suspension next. I'll likely just skip straight to Xidas and do full bushings at the same time. Gotta pace myself...
maplewood is offline  
Related Topics
Thread Starter
Last Post
Wheels and Tires
06-24-2015 11:49 AM
Wheels and Tires
04-24-2013 05:47 PM
Race Prep
05-27-2011 10:35 PM
General Miata Chat
08-20-2007 10:33 AM
Insert BS here
12-06-2006 02:11 PM

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Tire Wear Questions

Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.