What wheels to go with Tuckin99 N2 Flares??
 

Well, I’ve decided that this might be a useful thread since I am picking up a set of these flares from spoolin2bars…. Also this info might benefit many of you since it seems that rharris may be making replicas. Obviously the Kosei k1’s that I have on my car (15x7 +38et) just aren’t going to cut the mustard once these things are installed and many of you would be in the same boat. Now before we go any further, lets clear the air here: yes we know 6ul’s are a great wheel for those who often track their car, yes we know the wheels that you need to fill these flares will be heavier than other options out there, yes we know not everyone cares for negative offset and the deep dish look, yes we know the scrub radius and all that jazz won’t be ideal…. However, if you are even remotely interested in these flares, its clear that your primarily into the look more than the function of them, since its been proven time and time again that you can stuff more than enough rubber under stock body work or moderate flares.

Now lets get to the nitty gritty….lets try to make this as informative as possible. Lets try to include:
1) Wheel Manufacturer / Model
2) Wheel size and offset – Front and rear in some cases
3) Average cost (Huge factor for many of us, myself included)
4) Where to buy (Cheapest place at the moment)

So, let me get this party started, lol:
The quintessential Tuckin99 N2/ Wheel combination
1) Panasport C8-16
2) 16x9 0et Front – 16x10 -2et Rear
3) $$
Panasport Racing Wheels, high performance, lightweight, economical, one piece cast, modular, aluminum alloy, heat-treated, reliable, brake cooling, low unsprung weight and rotating mass, precision machined, custom offsets, road race, rally, autocross

Panasport Racing Wheels

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1) Axis Racer X
2) 15x8 -27et
3) $150-$180 per rim
Axis OG Racer-X Wheels - 15x8 Silver Rims

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i'd go with 5 point stars instead of 4s and a little different on the offset but otherwise not too bad

Offset is everything, bro. Panasports.

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t25285/

Work, Rota, and Sportmax in that thread.

Yessir...thats why I'm thinking about a 15x10 0et rear and like a 15x9 0et front (Anybody know of any wheels!)...those axis ones are a little deep for me, but figured they deserved a spot in here...

Ive always been a fan of the black NA with the Panasports, is my wallpaper at work :greddy: Make a poll, I go for the Panasports..

Deep dish wheel thread at CR.net. 14 pages of high offset goodness / evil / deadweight depending on your outlook.

deep dish wheel thread. - ClubRoadster.net

Of course there's always the dirt cheap steel racing wheel option. Keizer or Kodiak for alloys.

Mickey Thompson 15x12 3.25" backspacing anyone?

You'll look like the mexican "tuned" cars around where i live with the flipped over style rims.

There's some serious rice in that thread. I used to be in love with sportmax wheels, now I cant get 15x9 6uls our of my head :bang:. On my budget however Im gonna end up with sportmax, watch.

Those Racer-X wheels look pretty decent in higher offset, but that -38 stuff is stupid gay. Stick with the Panasports if you can afford them.

What the heck.. I'll put in my undervalued $0.02...

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I think thats hot.

Just make sure you're using a nice wide wheel and the proper fitting tires. :D

Diamond Racing
13x9's 0 offset
cheap
heavy
cool looking

Interested in Diamond Racing Wheels - ClubRoadster.net

exactly the shit i have been wanting to know! thanks Cspence

The diamond racing wheels don't look half bad...but damn they're boat anchors...some were over 20lbs. Not sure I could live with adding 8+ lbs of unsprung weight to each corner of my car...

rather inexpensive though! as far as the weight, if you got the horsepower..........why not!

The price sure is right...I know going this route ment sacrifice, which I am willing to accept to a point since I am not "compeditive" with my car, but this would definitly have a large impact on performance....I don't have a LS2 in this thing, lol


**Edit**
Just rechecked their website and found some 15x10's that they say are 18 lbs...and you can get them with pretty much any backspacing (1"-7") so thats about (-101et to +51et)

For the fronts if you play'd the offset right you could probably get away with the 15x8's which weigh 16lbs (-76et to +38et)....now I'm gonna break my own rule, the 6ul 15x9 only weighs like 13lbs wtf!

If I went this route, I'm thinking I could run the 15x10 0et in the rear and like a 15x8 -15et front....but then that might have some negative characteristics on handling with the staggered setup..not sure

http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/pro.html

http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/images/pro.jpg

No miata, but the wheels don't look half bad (I don't think these are the "wide 5" version which are lighter)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...mondracing.jpg

:giggle:

i thinks i wouldnt go any heavier than around............16lbs????

what is the equation for actual weight to rotating weight? i have always been curious about that!

Please don't stagger, thats dumb.

Also, the 13" with flares are light enough and look way better. This is more of a CR thread than anything. There is a guy on there with 13x10 daimond racing wheels that look just money. Search for pics, 13's rock...go gangster.

I can't find it :facepalm:

nah! this would be some CR shit if we got into talking about the idea of using ridiculously thick spacers with longer studs to achieve the look we want, and saying that it wont fuck up anything on the car!

i personally like staggered set ups! i fuckin HATE rotating tires!

Not lookin too bad....with the flares I could run a wider tire than what this guy is and the ricer'esk look would'nt be so bad because all that meat would be under the flare and not sticking out...

http://img.over-blog.com/600x450/2/4...itey-white.jpg

Will 13's fit over the brake calipers on an NB?

looks good! would be much better with the flairs and a more meaty tire!

IIRC no! it will on a 1.6 NA, but since the brakes on 94 and up are bigger, you cant clear them!
you technically can if you put 1.6 brakes on your car!

somebody correct me if im wrong, im goin based off what i was told!

I'm wondering with the obviously heavier wheels how much that effect is amplified by the low offset. I'm thinking leverage. It's not only heavier but also further from the axis point of the suspension. Going to an 18- 20lb wheel + moving it out another 3 inches may be like running a 25 lb wheel at a normal offset. I'm thinking weight becomes pretty important the further out you go.

Look for some used Kodiaks, keizer's or the like to keep weight down!

we should bug the hell out of 949racing to make there wheels in 0 offset for us! :D

that would be ideal....but somehow I dont think that's going to happen. Although, in my searching, I did find that he did a limited run of 15x10's a while back..

damn! they should do it again, or at least make it a order to make option!
so that they dont make a bunch and get stuck with them!

Business is in volume...so if they were to offer it like that, as a special option, we'd pay for it! Although it would probably be worth paying the premium....

even with the extra cost they would still be comparable to other wheels that are out there! i like the idea of have something so few would have!

Guess it could'nt hurt to ask...I to like being different and having things only a few have, shit, thats partly why I like the N2 flares so much.
**EDIT** Doesn't look promising (http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/sho...ighlight=15x10)

On another note, these panasports would have been nice...the offset wasn't ideal (+25) but I think that could have been fixed sine its a 3 pc wheel...

15x10 Panasport 3 piece C-8 Wheels :eBay Motors (item 110446975216 end time Oct-18-09 09:41:29 PDT)

what has to be done to fix the turning radius issue with the larger and wider wheels on NA's!

right now im running 16x8 0 offsets, i already got the upper fender worked out! (i yelled at it ha) but turning causes some issues!

i know when getting the flares, your pretty much hacking up the fender and bolting/riveting them on! but will that solve turning radius scrub?

Having the right rim width and offset...

http://www.desertrides.com/reference.../sai-scrub.gif

ill have to take some pics to show what im talking about! the wheels and tires i have i got came off another NA........he had no scrubbing issues!

i guess my car just hates me!:facepalm:

These are ridiculous, but a nice looking wheel if the offset wasn't so extreme:

SSR LongChamps XR4
Size : 15x10
Offset : -40

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1...p15x109lx9.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4...p15x108kk8.jpg

13's fit on my '95 1.8 they wouldn't on a whatever year with sport brakes though. i did have to shave the excess casting off of my calipers though. about 15sec. per caliper with an angle grinder.

too bad for you that Kinesis now makes rapper wheels.

Just came across these...not to bad. Similar to the diamond racing:

Aero Race Wheels

13x10
Welcome To Aero Race Wheels ~ Estherville, Iowa

These are their "Black Chrome" Wheels
http://www.aeroracewheels.com/IMAGES/Black.jpg

They do make 15x10's but they are again, quite heavy in comparison


Did I mention they were dirt cheap...if you click on the close out section, you can pick up some 13x10s for $30ea. I'm tempted to buy one just to see if it'll clear my calipers

^ please do so i posted a thread about this a while back. And i have no balls or monies at the moment to do it. do and tell us how it is.

and rs watanabe R types come in the size your asking about

If you're ok with the styling of the Diamonds, Spinwerks look similar but much lighter but about twice the price, which still is only ~$1k. Type 82s are about 15lbs in 15x10. 16x10 are 16lbs.

13's for 30 bucks yahooooo!

Yea, but my wallet hates wats...

Nice! Thanks the info...they do look like a good option. At first I was accidentally looking at the series 85 wheels and was like WTF... the 15x10's were like $400 per wheel... like you say though, the series 82 wheels are the way to go...15x10 $249 ea and weight 15.5lbs...not bad at all! The 13x10 $228ea and weighs in at 10lbs...I think this wheel has moved its way to the top of my list!:bigtu:

Series 82

http://sccaforums.com/forums/storage...7/IMG_2401.JPG

http://album.hybridz.org/data/936/IMG_0576.jpg

http://album.hybridz.org/data/936/IMG_0569.jpg

how much more room do the n2 flares give you on each side?

I think like 3" or so...

Anyone have any ideas on what rubber to run on these size rims...13x10, 15x10, 16x10...I've been poking around for a little while and can't seem to find any good performance tires for this width rim...for the 15, we'll probably need like a 245/45/R15 or maybe even a 255 series tire...This may end up being the determing factor as to which rim diameter I would like to run....


PROXES T1-R 245/45 ZR16 94W with rim protection ridge
http://ssl.delti.com/tyre-pictures/Toyo/PROXEST1-R.jpg

why cant you just run a 1" spacer??

that will open up some choice of tires/rims.

I suppose thats true...rather than run with a spacer though I could just run negative offset....instead of the 15x10 0et, I could go with 15x9 -15 and that would put the outside of the rim in the same location as the 15x10....then at least I could run a 225/45/R15 and get R1R's or RS3's...I don't know why I did'nt think of that before, thanks for pointing out the obvious to me :giggle:

How do you like running in the novice group? :giggle:

Yea...running a staggered setup would probably promote understeer....not an ideal characteristic even if you don't track the car...Keepin the rims the same on all corners will keep the car neutral and more balanced...

running a spacer and running low offset put the same amount of strain on the hub.

just sayin. wouldnt completly off the spacer if the right set of wheels come along and are just barely out of your spec it might help. but i also understand you not wanting to run a spacer.

just saying dont rule it out

btw guys i hope you know those steel rims are a bitch to balance. A lot of people run them on wranglers (my previous vehicle). Even with the 35" tall tires by 12.5" wide they were still tough to balance even when the tire was spun around to match the opposite of the rim... aka heaviest on the tire goes to the lightest on the rim...

I know alot of people that switched to aluminums and removed more than half the weight the steelies took to balance. I've seen those things take up to an lb of weights to balance.

If you are going to run a spacer get the one that has its own set of studs.

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11247287/Wheel_Spacer.jpg

^ even with a 35" tire ???? what the bigger the tire the harder it is to balance there for your statement is wrong. steel wheels are fine with a smaller tire.

True...its that whole physics thing...its hard to prove wrong, lol

The spinwerks are aluminum...

it will be harder to balance if its the tires fault however it cant be the tires fault because if you switch to aluminum you should still be having problems while thats not the case. The people i've seen switch from steel to aluminum seem get a good balance afterwards.

He never made them. He needed 50 people to commit and got like 4. For a while, he said he'd do it if someone bought 200 wheels from him, and then he said he'd never do it under any circumstances, so I don't know where he stands on it now.

why?

They are safer than the spacers that simply extend the studs like these.

http://www.bmwtips.com/tipsntricks/W...tes/Image1.gif

The reason for that is leverage. When you use the blue spacer i posted above the leverage of the bolts remains the same since the mounting surface remains on the same location. When you add a spacer the mounting surface is much further away from the base of the stud so it creates leverage on the stud.

Basically the blue spacer is not much different than a rim with that same offset. The only thing you have to worry about is the extra nuts that hold the spacer since they are hidden by the rim.

Anyone know of another company similar to spinwerks (Price ~$250ea. /weight ~15#'s) that offer a 15x9...for some reason they don't offer them. They go from 15x8's to 15x10's. If I did go with them, I think I'd be picking up the 16x9.5's since the tire market is most favorable to that size from the research I've done. The best performance tires arn't available, but some moderate ones are. The selection is at least better than whats available for the 15x10. Once I get the flares in, at least I'll be able to see what offset will be necessary to fill them, which should help me with the search for wheels. Thats the one nice thing with these custom wheel companies....you can have them make the wheels to any offset. But like you said Tyson, I could always run a spacer....maybe I'll run 15x9 6ul's with a 2" spacer :giggle:

+1

I've heard this from several Miata buddies that AutoX with 13"s.

Regular 1.8L calipers will fit under 13" wheels, although I'm sure there are some out there that won't work.