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Old 05-25-2015, 03:01 PM   #2081
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Awesome, good to know those are the settings you actually used and that's where they came from. I just emailed ID for some info on a different injector set, hopefully I can add another spreadsheet to that thread. For science.
Getting those 1300's like a BOSS?
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That dyno sounds like it is going to come apart at any second! Is it because of the AWD and being a RWD?
no idea haha, it was just as loud when the subies were on it, so I'm guessing just loud in general
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Old 05-26-2015, 12:18 PM   #2082
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Getting those 1300's like a BOSS?
Maybe... I have an email into TSE about injectors so we'll see what happens. ID did send me the spreadsheet for the 1300 so we can add that to the brain-trust.
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Old 05-29-2015, 09:32 AM   #2083
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Welp the verdict is in: 19.7mpg on e85 mostly city, with a healthy dose of ALLOFIT at least once a day, and mostly short trips with lots of cold start and warmup fuel spent.

I think it can do 22 if I really tried. I think it can probably do 25 on a trip or something.

But who cares, I'm not about to find out. Boost is dericious
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Old 05-29-2015, 09:50 AM   #2084
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What does E85 cost per gallon for you? How much is premium pump gas in your area for comparison?
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:01 AM   #2085
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Good question. Taken from the same Valero/Propel gas station I get my e85 from the posted prices this morning:

e85 - 2.69
91oct - 3.44
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So you're looking at a 22% price deficit. I know you also use up to 30% extra fuel with E85 in comparison to pump gas due to its lower energy density. So my question is whether or not, on your respective tunes, you maintain an mpg level high enough on E85 to keep total fuel costs about even between both gasoline and E85. I know you probably don't give a **** either way and I wouldn't either but I am just curious.

Also, **** CA gas prices. I paid $2.85 for 93oct this morning.
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:45 AM   #2087
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haha, oh trust me I've weighed it out many times, and yes even ignoring the performance aspect of the stuff, it is still so much better to run than our crappy 91.

You can run the stuff leaner, I can sit at 16.5afr on the hwy and car won't even flinch. For the past couple years I've compared tanks and the difference is like $3-$4 between them at most, so basically same amount of money.

Our 91 is worse than most too, I believe AZ, CA, and NV have 91 that sucks so bad it's a tier lower than other 91's. So running the octane equiv of 95-105 for basically the same money, is fine by me

Oh and lastly, it smells cool
catless downpipe on 91 makes me want to puke. catless downpipe with e85 and the car smells pleasant
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Johnmann just ate an engine with cal 91. Not good gas.
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Yeah, I'm rather worried about the 91 we have out this way. My plan is to tune on it, pull some timing and boost off the top and top off with overpriced 95/100/110 for trackdays. I have the fear.

I was actually really worried about the turbo/ms guys who came down for Miatas@MRLS this last year. I know mentioned the 91 thing to more than a couple people.
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He was warned to fill up with Oregon 93 before crossing the border.
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Hmm. Yeah I didn't have any issues last year, but I was tuned rich and was only running about 14 PSI (250 ish whp) on track.

This year I'll be buying a bit of the hi-test as well.
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Hmm. Yeah I didn't have any issues last year, but I was tuned rich and was only running about 14 PSI (250 ish whp) on track.<br />
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<br />This year I'll be buying a bit of the hi-test as well.
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<br />Or you will just be on e85
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He was warned to fill up with Oregon 93 before crossing the border.
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Yeah, I'm rather worried about the 91 we have out this way. My plan is to tune on it, pull some timing and boost off the top and top off with overpriced 95/100/110 for trackdays. I have the fear.

I was actually really worried about the turbo/ms guys who came down for Miatas@MRLS this last year. I know mentioned the 91 thing to more than a couple people.
I always run track days on straight 100, it's cheap insurance.

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Or you will just be on e85
Not in Monterey County. Unless something changes dramatically in the next 6 months OR you haul your own down from San Jose/San Francisco/Sacramento.
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Ed, let's bring Mobius' tire trailer and 100s gallons of e85
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Or you could trailer both cars and all the fuel you can drink behind that beast of a truck you drive
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<p>Maybe next year&nbsp;I'll show up with it and our cars covered in soot </p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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Swing by Suckramental, I'll call the Propel station 2 miles from my house and tell them to have 4 tankers on standby

Let the corn flow through you
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If you start drinking it I'm sure that'll be the case
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