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Old 06-12-2015, 08:49 AM   #5001
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the problem with policing is their testimony carries more weight than a regular citizen's...

Sheriff's Deputy Charged With Perjury, Filing False Report | NBC Southern California

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A Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy is facing two felony charges after allegedly lying on an arrest report, claiming a man had tried to free two other men from the back of a patrol car when video shows he did no such thing.

The allegations stem from a traffic stop in August 2012 that was caught on video by several bystanders. Chris Gray can be seen on one of those videos watching the arrest in front of his home, with his arms folded.

"At some point one of the deputies came to him and told him he had to get up on the sidewalk," Gray’s attorney, Olu Orange, said.

When Gray refused, he was handcuffed and walked to a patrol car.

"His arms were pushed so far behind his head from the bottom that you could see his fingers,” Orange said.

Orange said his client’s treatment led to serious injuries that required shoulder surgery. Gray was arrested and spent five days in jail. While behind bars, he lost his job. He was charged with a felony for allegedly trying to free the two men detained during the initial traffic stop.

In the report about Gray’s arrest, Deputy Gregory Rodriguez, 35, wrote that he had seen Gray walk toward the passenger door of the patrol car - an assertion the witness video appears to contradict.

"How is it possible for someone who holds the public trust, who swore an oath to serve and protect, to write down such lies?” Orange said.

Roger Clark, a police procedures consultant and former LA County Sheriff’s lieutenant says it’s clear in the video that the deputies did not like Gray watching their activities, and said falsifying a report is a crime that should have been prosecuted much earlier.

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The criminal charges against Gray were eventually dropped, and the county agreed to settle a federal civil rights lawsuit with him for $550,000 earlier this year.

Rodriguez has been suspended from duty since April 2014 while the case was investigated, and his pay was suspended last month. He was arrested May 28. He remains employed by the department pending the outcome of the trial.
good thing cameras don't lie.
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:06 AM   #5002
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if these cops didnt have badges, wouldn't this video just look like a robbery?


raiding a place of business during business hours with customers inside by bashing down the door (then just opening the unlocked door when that doesn't work) and running inside with guns drawn, threatening violence against citizens, destroying property, and abusing the prescription drugs they are there to rob.
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:11 AM   #5003
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ahhh camerasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. ISIS.


watch as they arrest this guy for no reason after an initial stop and ID, then discuss what they should do to him (even discussing making sure they are being recorded and switch off public radio channels). His buddy on the radio explains that he should write on his report his was arresting him for the intial contact, nothing to do with driving, however this guy was charged and arrested for obstructing his license plate and driving without a license, both charges were dropped before court.

he complained to IA, but they weren't going to take up his complaint:

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They wanted me to make a sworn statement and get the complaint notarized. I did not feel comfortable doing that and my attorney advised against it. So I made a written complaint via email and they have video depicting what happened. What more do they need to investigate their officers? They use video evidence to charge citizens with crimes and they have used video evidence to investigate their officers in the past. I was concerned that they could twist anything I wrote in a notarized statement and use it against me. It felt like they were attempting to use the complaint as a backdoor way to interrogate me.
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:21 AM   #5004
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SECURITY BREACH!!!! you cant record on Constitution Ave. a public space means you must follow my orders citizen RAWRRRRRRRrrrrrrrr im fat **** me hard.


oh wait, yes you can. im fat derp tard pooot.
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Dearborn Heights officer died of drug overdose
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Almost a month after a police officer and his friend were found dead on the floor of a garage in Dearborn Heights, officials determined that the cause of the officer's death was an accidental drug overdose.
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Judge Backs Charges Against Cleveland Officers in Killing of Tamir Rice - NBC News

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In his 10-page ruling, Adrine called the video "hard to watch," saying he was "thunderstruck by how quickly this turned deadly." As Loehmann and Garmback look on and as at least six other officers arrive on the scene, it appears that Tamir is left to lie wounded on the ground for eight minutes with no indication that anyone is trying to help him, Adrine wrote.

Adrine found that there was enough evidence to justify charges of murder, negligent homicide, reckless homicide, involuntary manslaughter and dereliction of duty against Loehmann — but not aggravated murder, the most serious charge the activists had sought.

Garmback, he said, should face only negligent homicide and dereliction charges.
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N.Y. prison employee gave tools to escapees, sources say - CNN.com

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An employee of an upstate New York maximum-security prison gave hacksaw blades, drill bits and lighted eyeglasses to a pair of convicted murderers before their brazen escape, sources said Friday.

Clinton County District Attorney Andrew Wylie told CNN's "New Day" that Joyce Mitchell "provided some form of equipment or tools" to fugitive felons Richard Matt and David Sweat.

Two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation later elaborated about the hacksaw blades, with one of the sources mentioning the drill bits and the two pairs of special glasses given to to Matt. They were purchased over the past few months.

Matt and Sweat used power tools to cut through cell walls that included a steel plate and sever a 24-inch steam pipe -- once to get in and once more to get out -- and surfaced through a manhole. Despite all the time, effort and noise likely involved, authorities didn't learn anything was awry until a bed check at 5:30 a.m. Saturday.

Authorities strongly believe the fugitives are still together after deciding to continue their escape as a pair, two law enforcement sources briefed on the matter said Friday.
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Old 06-12-2015, 01:42 PM   #5009
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Miami Police Shoot and Kill a Homeless Man In Front of 50 Children

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Antonio Torres a Miami police officer shot Fritz Severe, a homeless man 5 times in front of 40 to 60 children attending a summer camp Thursday morning, according to local media. The homeless man, who was holding a metal stick, was allegedly shot five times after refusing to comply with officers demands for him to drop it. He was transported to a nearby hospital where he died from his injuries.

Two officers were dispatched to the scene with a report of a violent dispute. A nearby library had called the police in order to remove the homeless man because he was brandishing a stick, witnesses said.

Police fired at the man around 10 a.m at Gibson Park in the Overtown neighborhood of Miami, notable for its public swimming pool and athletic fields. The approximately 40 to 60 children who witnessed the shooting were attending a summer camp in the park.

Officer Antonio Torres will be placed on administrative leave, said Miami Police Chief Rodolfo Llanes, according to local media. One witness claims that the homeless man was well-known in the neighborhood and always carried a stick, reports the Miami Herald.

Natalia Zea a news anchor for Miami’s CBS 4 tweeted that witnesses said that the homeless man did have a stick, but never lunged or made a move towards the officers.
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New Britain Settles Police Lawsuit From 2011 - Hartford Courant

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The city has agreed to pay $66,000 to a woman who accused police of using phony information to get a search warrant for her apartment nearly five years ago.

Giuseppina Sanseverino's federal lawsuit contended that, in 2010, police smashed a door with a battering ram, destroyed furniture and illegally searched her home during an attempt to arrest her son.

She sued in 2011 and the case dragged through the federal court system for years, but the city and Sanseverino reached a deal just before trial was scheduled to start in late May. The common council unanimously approved the agreement without comment Wednesday night.

Corporation Counsel Gennaro Bizzarro could not be reached Thursday, but the city has maintained that its officers acted in good faith and didn't lie in their affidavits for the search warrant.

Jon Schoenhorn, Sanseverino's attorney, said his client was relieved that the case was over.

"You hope this has a deterrent effect on the individual officers who forced the taxpayers to shell out money for their misconduct," Schoenhorn said.

Sanseverino sued after a team of officers arrested her son, Anthony, at her apartment in October 2010. They had an arrest warrant for him, but she said their search warrant for her home was based on fabricated information.

Police suspected Anthony Sanseverino, who had prior drug convictions, of dealing marijuana in the city. They got a search warrant for the apartment after filing affidavits in court saying that they had witnessed suspicious activity while observing the property. They also told the court that they saw a man appear to get marijuana at the building, and that the man told them Anthony Sanseverino had provided it.

But Giuseppina Sanseverino's lawsuit contended that police couldn't have seen the man's actions from where they were hiding. It also included a sworn statement from the man denying that he ever identified Anthony Sanseverino as the source of the marijuana.

U.S. District Court Judge Vanessa L. Bryant dismissed the case in 2012, saying that even if the plaintiff proved her points, there was still enough evidence to justify the search warrant. Schoenhorn appealed, and a panel of federal appellate judges reinstated the case in 2013.


Sanseverino had "raised a genuine issue of fact" regarding whether officers "intentionally or recklessly made misstatements and falsehoods in the warrant affidavit," the appellate judges ruled.

The judges didn't address whether the affidavits were falsified or whether Sanseverino should prevail, and sent the case back to Bryant's court for trial.

Schoenhorn said Thursday that police aimed a gun at his client and her toddler grandson during the search, causing emotional distress. Anthony Sanseverino was charged with marijuana possession when police searched the home, but that charge was not prosecuted.

The raid came at a time of internal turmoil at the police department under the command of then-Chief William Gagliardi. Schoenhorn said Thursday that he believes that the department has improved its practices under Chief James Wardwell, who has led the department since Gagliardi retired in mid-2012.
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police are too scared to do their jobs for 1. scary drunk people. 2. scary cameras.

APD officers don?t want to work once-preferred downtown patrol | KXAN.com

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More and more officers are not wanting to work downtown, according to the Austin Police Association.

“Just Friday night, I was with officers that were assaulted and bitten on Sixth Street,” said Ken Casaday, the president of the Austin Police Association.

Up until about three years ago, Casaday says downtown patrol was a choice position.

“It’s become so bad here that we’re having to force officers — young officers — from around the city to, against their will, be moved downtown,” said Casaday.

Casaday says drug use and heavy drinking, combined with growing crowds, is to blame. People who live, work or spend a lot of time around Sixth Street understand the problems.

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GOING IN-DEPTH // Downtown Patrol

The number of APD Officers needed downtown has grown dramatically over the last few years.

• There are currently 135 officers who patrol the Downtown Austin area
• Police records show 102 officers patrolled that same area in 2013
• Back in 2012, 68 officers patrolled downtown

“They do have a lot to deal with,” said downtown neighbor Aaron Boehm. “I’ve lived here for 11 years now, and I think the crowd and Sixth Street is different now than it was back then.”
Casaday says instances like Saturday night, where video taken of officers goes viral, adds to the problem.

“It’s the ‘I gotcha’ moment. I worked down there [over the weekend], and there’s hundreds of cellphones. Everybody is taking video,” said Casaday.

So what can be done? Casaday says cracking down on bars is a start.
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when cameras arent around:

Small town coverup of deputy?s use-of-force shows what can happen when there are no videos - The Washington Post

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But when Parrish complained to the sheriff’s department about how he was treated, justice proved elusive.

It turned out that the deputy accused of beating Parrish was the Decatur County Sheriff’s son, Wiley Griffin IV.

Rather than discipline the deputy, the sheriff’s department issued a warrant for Parrish’s arrest.

A year later he was convicted of a felony on trumped-up charges, fined and sentenced to three years of probation. And without video of the incident, no one could prove that the police incident report — that helped lead to Parrish’s conviction — had been falsified, or that a witness account — that could have helped Parrish’s defense — had been removed from his case file.

Instead, it took three years, an FBI investigation and a federal civil rights case to expose this coverup of police violence in Bainbridge.

On Wednesday, a federal jury convicted three Bainbridge sheriff’s deputies of obstructing justice and violating Parrish’s civil rights by lying about the incident to conceal the use of force during Parrish’s arrest.


The case goes back to the evening of Sept. 15, 2012, during an annual motorcycle festival called BikeFest. The event is aimed at raising money for charity, but is also typically raucous. The 2012 festival was no different — an argument had broken out at a party Parrish was attending, according to testimony at trial reported by Bainbridge radio station Sowega Live. Deputies who were on hand to patrol the festival intervened, restraining Parrish’s stepfather because they believed he was involved. Both sides agree that Parrish made his way toward the deputies at that point.
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Dont tell cops they are breaking traffic laws:


youll get arrested for resisting arrest.
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Cops shut down the I-495 Long Island expressway to catch motorcycles splitting the lanes.



If you don't want motorcycles splitting lanes, don't shut down a highway and create a situation in which cyclists will split lanes.
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fish arent biting today:

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count the reasons why this guy was stopped and laws "quoted":

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respect the Judge.

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so all laws are unjust until the supreme rules they are constitutional, then they are just?

that means about 99.9999999999999999% of all laws are unjust.
No.

It means that laws are generally presumed to be just until they are challenged, and after having been challenged, the determination as to whether they are just or unjust is made either by the Supreme Court of the state in which the law exists, or by the US Supreme Court if the law is a Federal one, or a State law under certain qualifying conditions (eg: constitutional claims, laws affecting other states, etc.)



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I argue that just because the supreme court rules a law valid, does not mean it shall be just, nor necessary. we DO get to pick and choose.
Unfortunately, such an attitude could be used to justify just about any crime.

There's really no rational way to respond to a person who argues that they, as an individual, should be able to pick and choose which laws they want to follow, so I reply using a cartoon about two Guinea Pigs having this exact same argument:

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Just is based on morals--it's subjective. Laws considered constitutional or not have no bearing on just. Laws are NOT inherently just or unjust.

"An unjust law is a code that a numerical or power majority group compels a minority group to obey but does not make binding on itself. This is difference made legal. By the same token, a just law is a code that a majority compels a minority to follow and that it is willing to follow itself. This is sameness made legal." - MLK

there are plenty of laws that are unjust that the supreme court has okayed, one thing that comes to mind is forfeiture laws which the gives the state/fed the power to steal your property without a crime being commited.

they've also okayed immigration checkpoints where they give the fed power to stop people within 100 miles of the border and detain/question/search them without any cause.

When I said we can pick and choose, I was not necessarily saying: follow or not follow.

I said it after the key words "or necessary" meaning we don't have to pass laws, especially unjust ones. And the supreme court won't necessarily strike down laws that are simply unjust if they find they are constitutional. So laws must be challenged for repeal (see open carry law in TX), nullified, or maybe even broken.

The only reason that Uber drive was getting harassed was because the city denied their business license but granted one to a competitor that pays the city extra $$$. City governments have taken all the profits out of taxi services. the only one that benefits in that indutry is the govt from all the taxes and fees--the driver gets paid less and the consumer pays more. The government can force anyone out of the market if they don't follow silly laws that only benefits their books and use force to do so to protect their monopoly.

"We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was 'legal' and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was 'illegal.' It was 'illegal' to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany. Even so, I am sure that, had I lived in Germany at the time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers." - MLK

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - TJ


what's wrong with fighting a speeding ticket? It's your right to take it to court.

In VA they passed a law that increased the penalty driving infractions substantially not just in fees but in jail times and taxes as well. 15mph over the speed limit would cost you a mandatory $2,500 fee, plus a $1,050 court fee, and could land you up to a year in jail, plus yearly payments of $350 for three years. Then you wanted to damn sure to hire a laywer to make sure that didn't happen.

The fee/tax/punishment for a obstructed view ticket was $1,050 and 6 demerits.

This law didn't include out of state drivers, so police now had an incentive to only stop VA drivers and ones speeding 15mph over the speed limit, or 5mph over any 75mph limits. or students with parking passes hung in the rear view.

It was quickly repealed within a year. but yeah, you were sure as hell going to fight a speeding ticket (remember we are the only state with radar detectors being illegal for regular drivers).

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