More and more and more f*n surveillance
04-28-2012, 11:18 AM
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More and more and more f*n surveillance
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...es-prison-camp
Cars will have black boxes connected to the GPS:
http://ericpetersautos.com/2012/04/1...nning-in-2015/
Every email, every post:
http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...-private-again
That POS evil sister of SOPA, called CISPA:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/0...opposing-cispa
Cellphone:
http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...-and-track-you
Cars will have black boxes connected to the GPS:
http://ericpetersautos.com/2012/04/1...nning-in-2015/
Every email, every post:
http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...-private-again
That POS evil sister of SOPA, called CISPA:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/0...opposing-cispa
Cellphone:
http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...-and-track-you
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04-28-2012, 11:30 AM
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The same surveillance technology, putting video cameras in cellphones, allows citizens to watch the watchmen:
Filming cops:
http://www.copblock.org/tag/filming-police/
Cop tackles cyclist, almost 3M hits:
City council bans videotaping:
http://ozarkgateway.kait8.com/news/n...er-videotaping
On Filming city councils:
http://www.garynorth.com/public/6935.cfm
You know the bastards are dirty when they don't want their activities and decisions videotaped and placed on youtube.
Filming cops:
http://www.copblock.org/tag/filming-police/
Cop tackles cyclist, almost 3M hits:
City council bans videotaping:
http://ozarkgateway.kait8.com/news/n...er-videotaping
On Filming city councils:
http://www.garynorth.com/public/6935.cfm
You know the bastards are dirty when they don't want their activities and decisions videotaped and placed on youtube.
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04-28-2012, 11:47 AM
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The link on the GPS stuff in cars has bothered me ever since I had a student with a CTSV and the car shut down on track because OnStar thought there was a crash. This is yet another reason I will always drive old-*** cars.
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04-28-2012, 12:01 PM
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http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-6411323.html
I love the vid on the cop that wrecks the cyclist. In this article, the terminated cop claims he tackled the man because he was shouting with his hands off the bike and "attempting to disrupt traffic". I'm surprised the cyclist is suing the cop and not the PD all together.
I love the vid on the cop that wrecks the cyclist. In this article, the terminated cop claims he tackled the man because he was shouting with his hands off the bike and "attempting to disrupt traffic". I'm surprised the cyclist is suing the cop and not the PD all together.
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04-28-2012, 02:01 PM
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Electronic surveillance has existed pretty much since the invention of electronics. It is used by criminals, law enforcement, and everyone in between.
As the cost, size and ease-of-use of any given technology move in favorable directions, the extent to which that technology is employed by all users will increase. This is as immutable as Newton's laws of motion.
You can't turn back time.
As the cost, size and ease-of-use of any given technology move in favorable directions, the extent to which that technology is employed by all users will increase. This is as immutable as Newton's laws of motion.
You can't turn back time.
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04-28-2012, 02:55 PM
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We will undoubtedly start to see more insurance companies adopt the Progressive model by offering their customers the opportunity to voluntarily use such as system in exchange for lowered insurance premiums on 1996 and newer vehicles, but in terms of the government mandating a retrofit of all existing vehicles for the purpose of surveillance? That will never happen.
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04-28-2012, 03:14 PM
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Relax, it's just hysterical nonsense.
We will undoubtedly start to see more insurance companies adopt the Progressive model by offering their customers the opportunity to voluntarily use such as system in exchange for lowered insurance premiums on 1996 and newer vehicles, but in terms of the government mandating a retrofit of all existing vehicles for the purpose of surveillance? That will never happen.
We will undoubtedly start to see more insurance companies adopt the Progressive model by offering their customers the opportunity to voluntarily use such as system in exchange for lowered insurance premiums on 1996 and newer vehicles, but in terms of the government mandating a retrofit of all existing vehicles for the purpose of surveillance? That will never happen.
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04-28-2012, 03:59 PM
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This is kind of an interesting (if somewhat hokey) patent application:
http://www.peertopatent.org/patent/20090063201/overview
Excerpt:
http://www.peertopatent.org/patent/20090063201/overview
Excerpt:
Intoxication can be determined from measuring braking force, accelerator use and proximity to nearby cars. A “nonintrusive load monitor” algorithm can figure out if a driver is intoxicated, even if different drivers use the car.
I'm pretty sure that such a system would determine that every single member of this forum consumes an entire handle of cheap whiskey every single time we get into our cars.
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04-28-2012, 06:25 PM
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The same surveillance technology, putting video cameras in cellphones, allows citizens to watch the watchmen:
Filming cops:
http://www.copblock.org/tag/filming-police/
Cop tackles cyclist, almost 3M hits:
City council bans videotaping:
http://ozarkgateway.kait8.com/news/n...er-videotaping
On Filming city councils:
http://www.garynorth.com/public/6935.cfm
You know the bastards are dirty when they don't want their activities and decisions videotaped and placed on youtube.
Filming cops:
http://www.copblock.org/tag/filming-police/
Cop tackles cyclist, almost 3M hits:
City council bans videotaping:
http://ozarkgateway.kait8.com/news/n...er-videotaping
On Filming city councils:
http://www.garynorth.com/public/6935.cfm
You know the bastards are dirty when they don't want their activities and decisions videotaped and placed on youtube.
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04-28-2012, 06:27 PM
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Relax, it's just hysterical nonsense.
We will undoubtedly start to see more insurance companies adopt the Progressive model by offering their customers the opportunity to voluntarily use such as system in exchange for lowered insurance premiums on 1996 and newer vehicles, but in terms of the government mandating a retrofit of all existing vehicles for the purpose of surveillance? That will never happen.
We will undoubtedly start to see more insurance companies adopt the Progressive model by offering their customers the opportunity to voluntarily use such as system in exchange for lowered insurance premiums on 1996 and newer vehicles, but in terms of the government mandating a retrofit of all existing vehicles for the purpose of surveillance? That will never happen.
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04-28-2012, 08:35 PM
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Relax, it's just hysterical nonsense.
We will undoubtedly start to see more insurance companies adopt the Progressive model by offering their customers the opportunity to voluntarily use such as system in exchange for lowered insurance premiums on 1996 and newer vehicles, but in terms of the government mandating a retrofit of all existing vehicles for the purpose of surveillance? That will never happen.
We will undoubtedly start to see more insurance companies adopt the Progressive model by offering their customers the opportunity to voluntarily use such as system in exchange for lowered insurance premiums on 1996 and newer vehicles, but in terms of the government mandating a retrofit of all existing vehicles for the purpose of surveillance? That will never happen.
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04-28-2012, 09:30 PM
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Don't get me wrong; I absolutely believe that in-car surveillance of both location and operating parameters will become universal very soon, most likely as a de-facto standard by the manufacturers themselves. We already have "black box" EDR capability in the majority of new cars for recording the last few seconds leading up to an airbag deployment. This is, in part, how Toyota recently managed to vindicate themselves from all the morons who didn't realize that the brake pedal was the bigger one on the left.
I'm just saying that the idea of being forced to go back and retrofit old cars with tracking devices by government mandate is completely absurd, and the mention of such is strong evidence of an author whose mindset is one of fear and hysteria.
Such a retrofit has never occurred for any reason. Hydraulic brakes, electric turn signals, seat belts, laminated windshields, third brake lights, catalytic converters, charcoal canisters, airbags... These things are all mandatory on new cars today, but no car owner was ever forced to go back and retrofit this technology onto their older vehicles.
There has never been a single instance of any western government commanding that all existing vehicles on the road shall be upgraded with some newly-designed technology. I suspect that it's never happened at all, though of course data on such matters in the former USSR and its related protectorates is probably hard to come by.
I'm just saying that the idea of being forced to go back and retrofit old cars with tracking devices by government mandate is completely absurd, and the mention of such is strong evidence of an author whose mindset is one of fear and hysteria.
Such a retrofit has never occurred for any reason. Hydraulic brakes, electric turn signals, seat belts, laminated windshields, third brake lights, catalytic converters, charcoal canisters, airbags... These things are all mandatory on new cars today, but no car owner was ever forced to go back and retrofit this technology onto their older vehicles.
There has never been a single instance of any western government commanding that all existing vehicles on the road shall be upgraded with some newly-designed technology. I suspect that it's never happened at all, though of course data on such matters in the former USSR and its related protectorates is probably hard to come by.
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04-28-2012, 11:43 PM
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This is kind of an interesting (if somewhat hokey) patent application:
http://www.peertopatent.org/patent/20090063201/overview
Excerpt:
http://www.peertopatent.org/patent/20090063201/overview
Excerpt:
Intoxication can be determined from measuring braking force, accelerator use and proximity to nearby cars. A “nonintrusive load monitor” algorithm can figure out if a driver is intoxicated, even if different drivers use the car.
I'm pretty sure that such a system would determine that every single member of this forum consumes an entire handle of cheap whiskey every single time we get into our cars.
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