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Old 03-15-2017, 07:34 AM
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Our news cycle has devolved into soundbites. It sucks. Film at eleven.
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I think this is a perfect metaphor for why gov't should stay out of economy:

https://twitter.com/AprilDRyan/status/841993536732073985

*update: she made her account private after that remark, if it doesnt show above:





more examples of liberal brilliance:



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oh yeah, twitter is a great vessel for "comedians":


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Damn, using her logic, I'll never be a millionaire until my net income exceeds a million dollars a year. So disappointing.
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^ yeah, I feel your pain...



On an unrelated note, the blue lines on this chart depict products / services which, for the most part, are heavily subsidized or regulated by the State and Federal governments, while the red lines depict products / services which are largely unsubsidized and unregulated:

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Except for vehicle maintenance/repair. Unless I'm ignorant to the gov't interference. And amazingly most of those things spiked around 2008. Must be that global warming everyone keeps talking about.
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Vehicle maintenance has soared, because most people don't DIY anymore. With modern computers controlling everything, it's beyond the ability for most.
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Vehicle maintenance has soared, because most people don't DIY anymore. With modern computers controlling everything, it's beyond the ability for most.
I wonder if that is comparing "total maintenance" or the price of specific procedures.

Modern cars don't require 15k mile tuneups, 3k mile oil changes, etc. Most modern applicances (Civic/Camry/etc) will basically go 150k miles with only fluid changes/brakes/tires. Hell the '98 Z34 Monte Carlo I inherited from my mom in college was still on the original plugs when I got rid of it at 175k miles and still ran strong.

But yes, call the Mercedes dealer and ask about having them do a brake job on your SL65,,,,,
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Vehicle maintenance has soared, because most people don't DIY anymore. With modern computers controlling everything, it's beyond the ability for most.
it didnt help that Obama did his part to destroy the used part/car market...
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new way to make a lot of cash: just tell a liberal you have dirt on Trump:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinge...Bq#.wnZeEKmGaM

A liberal has reportedly been taken for a whopping $9,000 after partaking in an elaborate scheme he thought would lead to President Donald Trump’s impeachment.

According to BuzzFeed, it all went down when an Israeli by the name of Yoni Ariel flew from Tel Aviv to Rome with $9,000 in cash (given to him by a fellow anti-Trumper) to meet an Italian businessman who claimed to have explosive documents concerning the President.

Those documents supposedly told the story of a $1.6 billion transaction from ExxonMobil to a Europe-based Chinese mining company that was later converted into 1.4 billion euros and transferred to the Trump Organization.

The supposed transaction reportedly took place in mid-June as then-Exxon chief Rex Tillerson was in St. Petersburg at an economic forum also attended by Vladimir Putin.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
^ yeah, I feel your pain...



On an unrelated note, the blue lines on this chart depict products / services which, for the most part, are heavily subsidized or regulated by the State and Federal governments, while the red lines depict products / services which are largely unsubsidized and unregulated:

I wonder where automobiles would fall on this graph...heavily subsidized and yet also heavily regulated.
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And Jesus Said Unto Paul of Ryan ...

A woman who had been bleeding for 12 years came up behind Jesus and touched his clothes in hope of a cure. Jesus turned to her and said: “Fear not. Because of your faith, you are now healed.”

Then spoke Pious Paul of Ryan: “But teacher, is that wise? When you cure her, she learns dependency. Then the poor won’t take care of themselves, knowing that you’ll always bail them out! You must teach them personal responsibility!”

They were interrupted by 10 lepers who stood at a distance and shouted, “Jesus, have pity on us.”

“NO!” shouted Pious Paul. “Jesus! You don’t have time. We have a cocktail party fund-raiser in the temple. And don’t worry about them — they’ve already got health care access.”

Jesus turned to Pious Paul, puzzled.

“Why, they can pray for a cure,” Pious Paul explained. “I call that universal health care access.”

Jesus turned to the 10 lepers. “Rise and go,” he told them. “Your faith has made you well.” Then he turned back to Pious Paul, saying, “Let me tell you the story of the good Samaritan.

“A man was attacked by robbers who stripped him of clothes, beat him and left him half dead. A minister passed down this same road, and when he saw the injured man, he crossed to the other side and hurried on. So did a rich man who claimed to serve God. But then a despised Samaritan came by and took pity on the injured man. He bandaged his wounds and put the man on his own donkey and paid an innkeeper to nurse him to health. So which of these three should we follow?”

“Those who had mercy on him,” Pious Paul said promptly.

Jesus nodded. “So go ——”

“I mean the first two,” Pious Paul interjected. “For the Samaritan’s work is unsustainable and sends the wrong message. It teaches travelers to take dangerous roads, knowing that others will rescue them from self-destructive behaviors. This Samaritan also seems to think it right to redistribute money from those who are successful and give it to losers. That’s socialism! Meanwhile, if the rich man keeps his money, he can invest it and create jobs. So it’s an act of mercy for the rich man to hurry on and ignore the robbery victim.”

“How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of Heaven,” Jesus mused to himself. “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter heaven.”

“Let me teach you about love, Jesus — tough love!” Pious Paul explained. “You need a sustainable pro-business model. And you need to give people freedom, Jesus, the freedom to suffer misery and poverty.”

“The Lord God has anointed me to bring good news to the poor,” Jesus replied, emphasizing the last two words. Then he turned to a paralyzed beggar at his feet. “Stand up!” Jesus told the man. “Pick up your mat and go home.” As the man danced about joyfully, Pious Paul rolled his eyes dismissively.

“Look, Jesus, you have rare talent, and it should be rewarded,” Pious Paul said. “I have a partner, The Donald, who would like to work with you: He’d set up a lovely hospital, and the rich would come and pay for you to heal them. You’d get a percentage, and it’d be a real money-spinner. Overhead would be minimal because every morning you could multiply some loaves and fishes. You could strike it rich!”

“Blessed are the poor, for theirs is the kingdom of God,” Jesus said. “But woe to you who are rich, for you have already received comfort.”

“Oh, come on, Jesus,” Pious Paul protested. “Don’t go socialist on me again. Please don’t encourage class warfare. The best way to help the needy is to give public money to the rich. That then inspires the poor to work harder, galvanizes the sick to become healthy, forces the lepers to solve their own problems rather than kick back and depend on others. That’s why any realistic health plan has to focus on providing less coverage for the poor, and big tax benefits for the rich. When millions of people lose health care, that’s when a country is great again!”

“From everyone who has been given much,” Jesus told him, “much will be required.”

“Well, sure, this hospital would have a foundation to do some charity work. Maybe commissioning portraits of The Donald to hang in the entrance. But let’s drop this bleeding heart nonsense about health care as a human right, and see it as a financial opportunity to reward investors. In this partnership, 62 percent of the benefits would go to the top 0.6 percent — perfect for a health care plan.”

Jesus turned to Pious Paul on his left and said: “Be gone! For I was hungry and you gave me no food; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; and I was sick, and you did not help me.”

“But, Lord,” protested Pious Paul of Ryan, “when did I see you hungry or thirsty or sick and refuse to help you? I drop your name everywhere. And I’m pro-life!”

“Truly, I say to you,” Jesus responded, “as you did not help the homeless, the sick — as you did not help the least of these, you did not help me.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/o...ore-ipad-share
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Originally Posted by cordycord
I wonder where automobiles would fall on this graph...heavily subsidized and yet also heavily regulated.
How much was a brand new barebones hyundai accent in 2005?
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Trump's budget aims to cut meals on wheels citing the program has shown no benefits. Source: Trump proposed budget eliminates funds for Meals on Wheels | TheHill

However he's increasing defense funding where the money has clearly been put to good use: U.S. Army fudged its accounts by trillions of dollars, auditor finds | Reuters

The United States Army’s finances are so jumbled it had to make trillions of dollars of improper accounting adjustments to create an illusion that its books are balanced.

The Defense Department’s Inspector General, in a June report, said the Army made $2.8 trillion in wrongful adjustments to accounting entries in one quarter alone in 2015, and $6.5 trillion for the year. Yet the Army lacked receipts and invoices to support those numbers or simply made them up.

As a result, the Army’s financial statements for 2015 were “materially misstated,” the report concluded. The “forced” adjustments rendered the statements useless because “DoD and Army managers could not rely on the data in their accounting systems when making management and resource decisions.”
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RTC: what % of federal funding makes up Meals on Wheels budget?

There is an umbrella Meals on Wheels organization and it receives 3.3 percent of its funding through the Community Development Block Grant program. If the CDBG is cut as proposed in the Trump budget — and there is no guarantee that Congress will accept even the rough budget outline presented — then that amount of funding to the national Meals on Wheels organization would be cut.

The national organization partners with some 5,000 local groups that actually prepare and deliver the meals. Those groups do get 35 percent of their funding from federal sources, but the money for nutrition programs largely comes for the Older Americans Act Title IIIC, which is administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Those funds are not the ones in question and why I wrote that cutting the CDBG program does not eliminate Meals on Wheels. However, some local groups might be adversely affected, which doesn't help those who need help in those areas. But that is still not the same as saying the entire program will disappear.

This is an example of why it is important to take time, go through details, and not expand claims or alarms beyond what is factual. As so many fear for Meals on Wheels, there’s been less attention on what else might be at stake with a potential CDBG cut. For some large states, the impact is worth hundreds of millions of dollars a year. (I’ll post more about that later.) In addition, if all the attention for Meals on Wheels is on the CDBG cuts, will anyone also be looking at potential changes in OAA Title IIIC funding by Congress? Details matter.
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RTC: what % of federal funding makes up Meals on Wheels budget?



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3%...

It's projected that the cost to the taxpayers for Trumps weekend jaunts to Maralago will cost $600M over his term (4yr).

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Originally Posted by fooger03
How much was a brand new barebones hyundai accent in 2005?
The MSRP on a 2005 Accent GLS hatchback was $9,999 (source) as compared to $14,995 for a 2017 SE hatchback (source), an increase of 49.96% over a 12 year period.


2005 Accent:





2017 Accent:






By way of comparison, issue # 452 of Mad Magazine had a cover price of $3.99 (source), whereas issue # 544 (April 2017) has a cover price of $5.99 (source), an increase of 50.13% over the same period.


I swear, I picked Mad Magazine completely at random for this comparison, and didn't calculate the percentages until after typing everything else. But it turns out that the price of a Hyundai Accent almost perfectly tracks that of satirical magazines. I'm sure there's a doctoral thesis in there somewhere...









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Originally Posted by bahurd
3%...

It's projected that the cost to the taxpayers for Trumps weekend jaunts to Maralago will cost $600M over his term (4yr).

if we ended taxes, we could end the bitching about what our govt spends our tax dollars on...
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