More boost or more timing? -E85 Tune
#1
More boost or more timing? -E85 Tune
Hello all,
I'm trying to get into the low 200 whp range. Currently i'm running 9.5 pounds of boost and 21 degrees of timing @ 6k. Would more boost or more timing be better to get past 200+ whp? I am running E85 so knock isn't a concern but i'm worried that more timing will go past MBT? Below is a VD run from earlier today and also my current setup. The ignition table is degrees retarded from stock ecu.
List of mods:
Flyin Miata Turbo manifold and downpipe
Flyin Miata 2.5" Midpipe
Flyin Miata Intercooler
Garret GT2560R Turbo
Flyin Miata Clutch lvl 1
Flow Force 640cc Injectors
AEM FIC6 ECU
AEM X series wideband sensor
Flyin Miata Sway Bars
NGK BKR7E gapped to 0.032"
Fenix Radiator with SPAL 12" fans
Continental Flex Fuel Sensor
I'm trying to get into the low 200 whp range. Currently i'm running 9.5 pounds of boost and 21 degrees of timing @ 6k. Would more boost or more timing be better to get past 200+ whp? I am running E85 so knock isn't a concern but i'm worried that more timing will go past MBT? Below is a VD run from earlier today and also my current setup. The ignition table is degrees retarded from stock ecu.
List of mods:
Flyin Miata Turbo manifold and downpipe
Flyin Miata 2.5" Midpipe
Flyin Miata Intercooler
Garret GT2560R Turbo
Flyin Miata Clutch lvl 1
Flow Force 640cc Injectors
AEM FIC6 ECU
AEM X series wideband sensor
Flyin Miata Sway Bars
NGK BKR7E gapped to 0.032"
Fenix Radiator with SPAL 12" fans
Continental Flex Fuel Sensor
#6
Ok i'm going to shim my wastegate out some more and aim for 11~12 pounds of boost. I might even setup ebc if I feel like messing with that. 250 sounds nice but it also seems a bit risky on the stock rods. I'm thinking 230 should be enough to satisfy me for now. I used to think a car could never have enough power but now i'm starting to realize how insane a 300+ whp miata would be on the streets.
#9
Maybe I am a dummy but getting flex to work with the flex sensor requires having 2 timing and fuel tables, possibly different cranking tables and blending them together based off of the ratio of ethanol. Seems like a lot more work than wiring up an ebc, watching a quick video on how to tune it and then doing that.
#11
When I made the harness for the FIC I decided to put in wiring for a boost solenoid. So most of the wiring is already done but I don't have any sort of over boost protection right now. I'm all for EBC but also paranoid that the boost solenoid could fail causing the engine to blow up. Also the FIC only supports open loop boost control and I have no idea how well open loop bc works in the long term?
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Map is to get the car cranked. Tuning required. If you can't figure it out it's ok to ask a tuner to do it for you.
I had zero prior experience tuning anyting and learned from reading and experimenting, like most of the people on the forum did. I made mistakes but I learned things, which is part of the reason I tinker with the car.
I had zero prior experience tuning anyting and learned from reading and experimenting, like most of the people on the forum did. I made mistakes but I learned things, which is part of the reason I tinker with the car.
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