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Old 01-03-2012, 08:48 PM   #1221
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I'm probably selling my Hard chrome Sub 2000 in .40 soon. Then I begin the hunt for a 9mm Glock model to replace it.

Hoping I can find someone who wants the Hard Chrome finish enough to swap .40 for 9mm with me.
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:52 PM   #1222
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How much?
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My GF is about to go back to Houston and I want to send her off with a pistol. I'm thinking about directing her toward an M&P9C because we can share magazines. I'm leaning towards a compact because she will conceal/carry. What do most women need in a pistol aside from something that fits in their hand? I can't imagine its much different from a man's needs which are reliability, and a gun that's good for executions.
I'd say make sure whatever it is, she is comfortable shooting it and is able (and willing) to shoot it well. It's just like with racing a car, dependable safe equipment is required, but other then that the effectiveness if the tool is largely and primarily based on the user, you can go out and buy a new Porsche GT2, but if you suck at using it and end up wrapping it around a tree your gonna get passed by the guy driving a 20 y/o girl car.
At Parris Island, they have the recruits "dry fire" their rifles thousands of times (according to my lil bro who going through shooting week now). This is so they don't flinch when the rifle goes off, greatly improving accuracy. I would say she should do a lot of that, it sounds silly but it works, especially if she is at all gun shy. I also like the idea of a "laser", that way she doesn't have to really aim the gun if her life depends on it. Does she panic behind the wheel?
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:05 PM   #1224
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How much?
Probably about 350. Would come with Kel-Tec sling, picatanny rail and a folding front vertical grip.

Going to look to trade first though.

Waiting for it to get back from Kel-Tec first though. It has been mostly awesome, but once in a blue moon I'd have an initial round feed and catch. So they are updating the feed ramp profile.
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Sorry, I got nothing to trade. Keep me in mind, though.
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If you decide you want to sell it and rleete doesn't want it, PM me.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:58 PM   #1227
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Change in plans.



Those came in the mail today. They're worse than I figured they'd be. Might build something from them or just sell them for a few bucks less than I paid. Ejection Port cover is too tight and flexes when closing. Catch for cover rests directly against the Poly frame, so it will wear out. The edges are completely rough and need fine honing and filing.


Might've found a DIRT cheap complete upper already built for about the price of a good barrel... Details to follow pending an email from the company about weight.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:55 PM   #1228
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Ok, so compared to my barrett 5.56 stripped upper, with the same gas impingement M16 BCG, charging handle and barrel nut they are as follows:
Poly: 19.8 Oz.
Barrett: 22.6 Oz.

I figured the poly upper would've been a LOT lighter, but it would appear that isn't the case. 2.8 ounces isn't even worth messing with weight wise, however the savings was nice I found an even better deal on a complete assembled carbine upper.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:25 PM   #1229
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This has become an obsession and it's killin' me!


Complete PC15 lower receiver w/hogue overmold grip and Magpul BAD: 796.1 Grams
PC15 composite Stock: 215.2 Grams
Metal buffer tube: 181.3 Grams
Buffer and Spring: 137.9 Grams
Complete lower minus Buffer/spring/tube, rear plate, and stock: 260.1 Grams

My scale is +/- 0.1g


Found a company who sells a pretty nice upper w/out BCG or charging handle:



Emailed them asking the weight. The entire barrel is fluted and a medium profile throughout, 2.9 pounds.

Then I discovered they've got a pencil barrel with carbine guard/gas:



Still waiting to hear back about the weight, but I suspect its probably close to 2.2 pounds.


Now if I could only find a composite buffer tube.... Actually I might rip apart my colt and measure the weight of the standard A2 buffer tube because the one I measured was for the M4 stock..
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If you don't already know about this sight, check it out, it's like the craigslist of guns;
http://smtp.armslist.com/
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This has become an obsession and it's killin' me!


Complete PC15 lower receiver w/hogue overmold grip and Magpul BAD: 796.1 Grams
PC15 composite Stock: 215.2 Grams
Metal buffer tube: 181.3 Grams
Buffer and Spring: 137.9 Grams
Complete lower minus Buffer/spring/tube, rear plate, and stock: 260.1 Grams

My scale is +/- 0.1g


Found a company who sells a pretty nice upper w/out BCG or charging handle:



Emailed them asking the weight. The entire barrel is fluted and a medium profile throughout, 2.9 pounds.

Then I discovered they've got a pencil barrel with carbine guard/gas:



Still waiting to hear back about the weight, but I suspect its probably close to 2.2 pounds.


Now if I could only find a composite buffer tube.... Actually I might rip apart my colt and measure the weight of the standard A2 buffer tube because the one I measured was for the M4 stock..
Are you really that concerned about weight? I find the weight differences negligible and I would never sacrifice quality/reliability for even a couple of lbs.



I just picked this up for $109 and I'm impressed with the quality.



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I'm going to go weigh my parts store list build (ie: the one someone spent a bunch of money building so they could sell it right away )

And to those interested in the sub2k, i'll let this thread know before i offer it anywhere else
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:48 PM   #1233
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7.3lbs using plain ole bathroom scale(me holding it, me solo) and with the compm4 on it.
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Not Colt... head asplode.
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7.3lbs using plain ole bathroom scale(me holding it, me solo) and with the compm4 on it.


^this thing?

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Not Colt... head asplode.
I know, right? I just ordered Korean Glock magazines. I'm trying new things, it's a new day.
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I think more focus needs to be put on lightweight AR style platforms. I think they would really take off as a hunting rifle. A good hunting rifle needs to be less than 8lbs scoped. Not 15lbs.

My FNAR is light compared to most AR10s, and I bet it is 10lbs scoped. It's noticeable after a 5 mile hike in hilly terrain.
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You have difficulty carrying 10 lbs for a couple hours? That's a joke, right? Do you own a sling?
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Forget the sling, get a good military style backpack, you won't notice 5lbs. In boot camp you carry 50-70lbs 15k, (9.3 miles) plus an M16A4 in your hand.
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The upper I've selected has the same forge markings as a Colt, a chrome lined barrel, is super inexpensive, and commonly used by an armorer friend of mine who builds military grade rifles. While I understand some people do have problems with the composite lowers I've yet to experience one or know someone who has first hand experience with failures. Considering the fact that I'm not building a battle rifle to take into combat, it'll be plenty reliable so I'm much more concerned about weight. Don't forget, I do plan to abuse this thing badly to see what it'll take. Bore snake and an oiled patch is the absolute most it'll get, likely ever.


Without optics, sights, or the skeleton stock I'll have $385.00 in a complete AR15 rifle that goes bang.


Today was like Christmas:




Got 10 Brownells M4 magazines for $5.00 each, and a Primary Arms M4 red dot for $60.00. The upper I've selected has a standard front sight so I'm either going to buy a flip up rear or some sort of fixed rear to use with the red dot.


My DPMS heavy barrel scoped AR is 14 pounds even with a composite lower. No, it's not that difficult to carry but try firing it from a standing position unsupported. It's a bench or stand rifle, not something I can carry and fire easily all day from a standing position. The Colt is 8 pounds which is a lot easier, but I want something even lighter. Uhm, I'm not exactly a weak individual when it comes to upper body strength either, beer gut or not.
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