240_to_miata

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That makes sense... except for the fact that the ase's were only at like 7% and the car was still running. Its worth a shot tho.

240_to_miata

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Hey I figured out something that definetly wasnt helping us. We were only changing the fixed map time period, never changed the TOTAL time... so essentially what we made it do is just suddenly turn off instead of decay

If we make it really slowly decay we might get a better idea of what we need to do elsewhere.

Make Fixed MAP like 3 seconds, and make ASE Total time LONG... like 2 minutes. Log it.

astroboy

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Yeah, I have much doubt about that recommendation but who knows. Maybe they are onto something, on the other hand it may do nothing.

astroboy

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I could do that tomorrow and post the goodness. Maybe afterwords try what DIY recommended and log that too.

240_to_miata

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Just save all tunes with date and description

astroboy

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Damnit all! The battery is still dead as **** (charger somehow got flipped to 6v) so going to postpone the run to tomorrow. I am halving ase and bumping the req. fuel up by .1 because I really don't know how much I should be going up with it but it should go up.

astroboy

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So the ase's have been halved, bumped req fuel up by .1 and ran it with a lengthened total time to 120 seconds and made the fixed time length to 30 seconds. Car ran and oscillated like a bipolar woman after the 30 seconds.

I thought I'd try taking the kpa down by half because it was cutting in half after the 30 seconds. She woudn't start. Then I put it at 70 (halfway in between the original value and the value it wouldn't run at). She went but everything remained the same.

I think I am going to have to jump into the fueling table even though the car isn't warmed up. Anybody have any input?

240_to_miata

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Ill check it out on my netbook tonight.

astroboy

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And then she stayed running.

Increased fuel did the trick, it is running lean as **** if wb is correct (which I am not doubting) so much more tuning is needed but at least she doesn't die rite away. She also made it to 136 degrees

Braineack

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I dont like this advice. ASE shouldn't last very long.

Fixed map isn't a great idea either, but it essentially locks your VE%, if you have a highly untuned table in that area this could lead to headaches trying to get your startup settings correct. I've seen plenty of fuel maps where users absolutely do not tune the area between 100-30kPa in your first two columns.

ASE should last maybe 30 seconds at the max, where your warmup should take you the rest of the way. You aim for low 13s while the motor is still below 160*F.

If you can only run while ASE is engaged, this suggests your fuel map is untuned or your req_fuel needs to be increased to inject more fuel altogether.

240_to_miata

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Awesome. If she is still running lean as F(CK but the table still seems to be scaled nice, go ahead and bump up your req fuel a bit more. You shouldnt need to touch ASE's much. Maybe cranking

240_to_miata

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This was to prove a point that it would run, scott. Now that he got it running he can dial it back to normal people ASEs

astroboy

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So a slight adjstment and nothing changed but she did start at 140° and 150° so pretty happy rite meow.

astroboy

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When I bump my required fuel up the idle also jumps up so I am going to leave it be for now. Gotta go put in time with the fam :P

I will be putting the ase's back to civil settings and, hopefully with some advice, try dialing her in so I can take her out for the maiden voyage.

So when I say lean the wd is going between pegged high (21.something) and ~16 which in my mind isn't ok. Perhaps I should leave req fuel alone and start working on the ve table...

240_to_miata

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As long as you dont start going up really high to the point where you will have VE's well above 100 in boost. At that point you need to add more req fuel and re-scale.

DO NOT drive that sucker with it that lean

astroboy

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I won't be driving it until I can get everything under some sort of control. As of present it is running but that is about it, I want to get it running correctly before I go any further.