So, what are the dimples on the valves? FOD maybe?
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probably from when his pistons commited suicide
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But aluminum putting marks like that on a valve face? I guess it it was moving fast enough.
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And at that temperature
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Jesus! Yeah post logs so we can see what was the true cause here
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Originally Posted by sonofthehill
(Post 1491070)
So, what are the dimples on the valves? FOD maybe?
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Originally Posted by elior77
(Post 1491401)
Head shop marking
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Marking them for what? Those valves are rock hard - they'd have to really strike them to get those marks.
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Marking them in order to know which goes where - I believe this is not the first head it been done to.
Could it be responsible for hot spots and the pre ignition that melted the pistons ? Thanks Elior |
No. You are
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Lol, fire your tuner.
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I tuned it and there were no abnormal signs while tuning, could be the few 20psi peaks did the kill.
I'll try better next time - in a week or two. |
Those pistons are eroded, that doesnt just happen with a few spikes. You were consistently detonating. You need to make or get a set of detcans. There most deff was abnormal signs with the way your pistons look, you just didn't pick up on them.
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Originally Posted by elior77
(Post 1491486)
I tuned it and there were no abnormal signs while tuning, could be the few 20psi peaks did the kill.
I'll try better next time - in a week or two. |
Originally Posted by elior77
(Post 1491443)
Marking them in order to know which goes where - I believe this is not the first head it been done to.
Could it be responsible for hot spots and the pre ignition that melted the pistons ? Thanks Elior Just be sure to set your base timing at idle before you drive anywhere next time. |
Never forget Singh Grooves.
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Severe detonation can melt a piston nearly instantly. I've had pistons on a two-stroke go from new to totally melted down in less than a 1/2 lap of a track. Mild detonation can also slowly erode the softer metals. But that to me looks pretty catastrophic (instant).
On second look, those are clearly marks from the engine builder. 6 marks on intake/exhaust valve, 7 marks on another set. That is a stupid way to mark them, just use a marker pen. Yes, those could initiate detonation due to a point source of heat forming, but they aren't the cause. The cause is you thinking you can run 20psi without proper tuning and fuel. -removed my rude comment, unnecessary- |
As I said, fuel was 11.5-12 all the time (could be the sensor is off, it is my ls4.2 spartan running for 7 years now).
The timing map is @ less then 10deg from 180kpa and up (could be base timing is off I got -13deg for ecu offset). I understand the rising edge vs falling can advance timing too. I'll double check everything on the new build with a new digital WB and 4.9 sensor. Thanks for the input guys :) |
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I'm impressed, 2 weeks and you got the block re-bored and decked with new pistons? Or is that just new pistons only? No matter, I can barely change spark plugs in 2 weeks.
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