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sonofthehill 07-12-2018 11:12 AM

So, what are the dimples on the valves? FOD maybe?

18psi 07-12-2018 11:15 AM

probably from when his pistons commited suicide

sonofthehill 07-12-2018 11:17 AM

But aluminum putting marks like that on a valve face? I guess it it was moving fast enough.

sonofthehill 07-12-2018 11:18 AM

And at that temperature

ysleem 07-12-2018 06:56 PM

Jesus! Yeah post logs so we can see what was the true cause here

elior77 07-14-2018 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1491070)
So, what are the dimples on the valves? FOD maybe?

Head shop marking

Eunos91 07-14-2018 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by elior77 (Post 1491401)
Head shop marking

I would assume these dots cause heat spots. Didn't they have edding markers?

Mudflap 07-14-2018 03:13 PM

Marking them for what? Those valves are rock hard - they'd have to really strike them to get those marks.

elior77 07-14-2018 03:47 PM

Marking them in order to know which goes where - I believe this is not the first head it been done to.

Could it be responsible for hot spots and the pre ignition that melted the pistons ?

Thanks
Elior

18psi 07-14-2018 05:15 PM

No. You are

Savington 07-15-2018 02:58 AM

Lol, fire your tuner.

elior77 07-15-2018 03:31 AM

I tuned it and there were no abnormal signs while tuning, could be the few 20psi peaks did the kill.

I'll try better next time - in a week or two.

hi_im_sean 07-15-2018 10:26 AM

Those pistons are eroded, that doesnt just happen with a few spikes. You were consistently detonating. You need to make or get a set of detcans. There most deff was abnormal signs with the way your pistons look, you just didn't pick up on them.

psyber_0ptix 07-15-2018 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by elior77 (Post 1491486)
I tuned it and there were no abnormal signs while tuning, could be the few 20psi peaks did the kill.

I'll try better next time - in a week or two.

Take pictures of that motor too.

sonofthehill 07-15-2018 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by elior77 (Post 1491443)
Marking them in order to know which goes where - I believe this is not the first head it been done to.

Could it be responsible for hot spots and the pre ignition that melted the pistons ?

Thanks
Elior

I have heard of dimples on combustion chamber surfaces, to reduce detonation.

Just be sure to set your base timing at idle before you drive anywhere next time.

psyber_0ptix 07-15-2018 12:15 PM

Never forget Singh Grooves.

Mudflap 07-15-2018 12:21 PM

Severe detonation can melt a piston nearly instantly. I've had pistons on a two-stroke go from new to totally melted down in less than a 1/2 lap of a track. Mild detonation can also slowly erode the softer metals. But that to me looks pretty catastrophic (instant).

On second look, those are clearly marks from the engine builder. 6 marks on intake/exhaust valve, 7 marks on another set. That is a stupid way to mark them, just use a marker pen. Yes, those could initiate detonation due to a point source of heat forming, but they aren't the cause. The cause is you thinking you can run 20psi without proper tuning and fuel.

-removed my rude comment, unnecessary-

elior77 07-15-2018 03:22 PM

As I said, fuel was 11.5-12 all the time (could be the sensor is off, it is my ls4.2 spartan running for 7 years now).
The timing map is @ less then 10deg from 180kpa and up (could be base timing is off I got -13deg for ecu offset).
I understand the rising edge vs falling can advance timing too.

I'll double check everything on the new build with a new digital WB and 4.9 sensor.

Thanks for the input guys :)

elior77 07-31-2018 06:00 AM

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New engine to burn :)

Mudflap 07-31-2018 10:58 AM

I'm impressed, 2 weeks and you got the block re-bored and decked with new pistons? Or is that just new pistons only? No matter, I can barely change spark plugs in 2 weeks.


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