No hate here, that thing looks awesome. I love builds that focus on reliability.

Haha, it sll good any way. I just hope I can get this ms3 turd polished up. Then I give this wobbly turbo a few months at best.

Part of the learning experience man, I think you are slowly but surely getting there(the right way). Keep it up, I'm sure there was many a face-palm moment in my build thread.

Solved the ground issue on the reroute spacer, an 8-32 screw. Now has reliable coolant temp.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1445777547

I'm stupid.

How does it ground to the screw in that location?

I guess that picture was a crappy story. The screw just provides me a place to attach a ground wire to. So, chassis ground》wire》screw.

Seemed pretty clear to me...ground wire to screw, spacer to block. :dunno:

Worked on the heat shield a bit, although I'm not totally convinced that this is the best or even a good solution.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1446161946


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1446161946

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...326f56d176.jpg

god damn man. You can fabricate. Is that welded aluminum?

Haha! Thanks. Yes it is. Weld the outside, then a giant bead on the inside, then grind it how you like it.

This is why I just want someone else to handle my electrical bull shit. It's not my strong point. I'm better with metal stuff.

Thats awesome. I'm going to try that next time I need to.

It's garbage. Send it to me and I'll throw it in the trash for you.

No seriously, I wish I could make things like that :vash: Good show sir.

It's beeeyoutifull

Fab skills are impressive, it looks like 1 piece. Damn.

On the functionality part, I think that's going to do fine to protect the coolant hoses and brake master, things in that area. If that's your goal, you're done.

The only way I can see improving what you have now is if you built another shield for the exhaust manifold. But it looks like yours is coated anyway, so that's probably not needed since it appears you have a low emissivity coating on the turbo manifold already.

:bigtu:

It was wierd to make. The wall has this helix type bend to fit around everything, then the lid had to be dished. A hammer, a torch and a pile of sand as an anvil helped me with that one.

New parts started...my catch can is under way. Waiting on bungs and chore boys. Because a simple catch can that I can buy for like 100 bucks, isn't mine.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447110651

Now with real cool machined area to hold a gasket in the lid.

You have some wicked craftsman skills sir. I admire your work.

Where do you source most of your threaded fittings and such from?

I can only hope I can bless my 1.6 with custom tidbits like yours.

Which fittings? Most of the steel ones just come from McMaster-Carr, aluminum bungs I just get from the Internet. Ebay usually. Just use a name brand hose end, or else they leak.

Finished the separator. ..mostly. made a last second decision to put one of the bungs on the top, to avoid having to buy a $25.00 180 degree fitting. Instant regret after I realized how tall it was like this. May have to buy the stupid fitting.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447519798


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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447519798

Stuffed full of ChorBoy.

Ok, now it's done. Finished the drain and some mounts that I can never repair if I have too.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447549315

The mount. Then the mount with the Allen bolt pressed in. .020 interference, so I had to use some heat...


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447549315

Done.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447549315

Balleur separator. :likecat:

this is one of those threads that keeps getting cooler and cooler as it progresses

I sent my MS to Brain to have it checked out, so I had some time to do some of this other stuff. Stuff that I would otherwise spend much, much less time on. This system of madness and defeat seams to be working for me.

Again, all this for a 2560??

I'd take a proper 2560 setup over a janky jerry rigged 3071 setup all day urry day.

besides, if the car is tip top and you get the itch for big power later, 2560 simple setups sell really easy because they've been the classic favorite for the past 20 years, and you can just upgrade turbo+hotside to EFR bits and make absurd, unnecessary power

No such thing

k

I'll tell that to my friend with his 2jz/precision 500whp+ spin machine that can't beat my 400whp wrx no matter what unless we do some moronic 80mph rolling start and go to 160mph

2jz bro


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447614830

more classy bro
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447616020


Sorry for off topic Ryan, lmk if you want me to clean it up :giggle:

Ew. That car is gross. Even if the engine is awesome.

I was going for the insta-spool when this all started..If I went to the small EFR, any idea what kind lag it would have, compared to the 2560? Any?

none

Holy crap, it all fit!


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447630430

And sweet coolant hard line too.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447630430

One more.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447630708

I hate hind sight.

Hindsight is not the word.
Technology is.
Just like the 1.6 sucks. And compared to the 2L the 1.8 is mediocre. And compared to the new ND engine the NC 2L is inferior. and so on

and in 5-10 years some other turbo will come out that will make the borg not the new hotness.

In hindsight if I knew I would get this deep. An AFR would have been the way to go. Or Rotrex....

I tend to get all regretty (like you) when my cars are down for a very long time and I don't get to enjoy them.

One of the reasons I vowed to myself to never have a car on jackstands for more than a couple days at a time. ever

people with builds that take years before the car even hits the road amaze me with their patience. unless you have another fun car, I just don't see how one could do it

My other car is a 325 (5spd AWD) wagon. Not fun.practical, not fun.

damn motor is pretty. How did you do the intake manifold to look like that? Painted?

Also I just ordered that radiator you have. How do you like it? Can you compare it to any other radiator you have used on performance or fitment?

Powder coated the manifold. Can't say anything about the radiator yet. The car has been on stands for officially 1 year today. I has a sad.

That's one damn fine-looking motor! (Makes mine look like it was assembled by blind elves using stone mallets - which my wife might say is an apt description)

Hmmm...1 year to get to this point...sounds about right :giggle:

Thanks for all of the nice comments guys. I also appreciate any suggestions as well. I is still NOOB.

Well now because of a comment from Savington, I feel like an ass for not installing the ARP main studs. What do you guys think. When I asked about this 10 months ago, the consensus was that it was just a baller item. Now Savington says it is mandatory over 250 whp. What gives?

Do you need a xanax prescription? Chill out dude. You're fine.

It probably wouldn't hurt.

:laugh: Yeah and a gold plated inconel setup with carillo i-beams and a 949 cnc head wouldn't hurt.

Can you build me a heatshield for the downpipe/brake melty area?

Savington is one of the few people to have broken the stock bolts. IMHO, they're a no-brainer item to add while building the motor because they don't cost all that much and there's no downside to running them. I don't know that I'd pull a running motor out to replace them, though.

--Ian

Gold plating probably would hurt, you'd melt it right off and dribble little blobs of gold all over the track. :)

--Ian

Probably. What turbo/manifold? I only have mine to work from.

Edit: I just looked at your build. Super nice. So, is my heat shield any different than the FM one? Just curious, I haven't seen one up close.

I think I'll wait until next year then. I do wish I had just gone ahead and done them first though.

i have no clue, i suck at aluminum fab. How far is Staunton from DC? I'm about to go to sleep. I'll look it up tomorrow.

Will somebody please send me a tune file that I could compare to my own. Preferably someone that is running ID 1000. This car is in shambles. I had it running, king of. Not able to be driven , that's for sure. I cant get it running well enough for VEAL to even take over. something in my set up is wrong and I don't know what. I cant afford to have it towed to North Va. or I would.

your set up has to be pretty close to mine. want to help me out with your tune, just for reference?

It's not mandatory over 250whp. Proof: There are people making over 250whp on stock main bolts. Several.

What firmware version are you running. I can put together a basemap based of the DIY basemap stuff for you.

The latest version. The map is a concern, but the entire set up now is my real concern. I'm still just so confused. My ms2 took me like two hours to get running pretty well. I'm on like two months of fucking around with this thing, and it will no longer even start.
I know I changed A LOT of things since then, but gawd damn. This is frustrating!

1.4? Post your latest MSQ so we can look through it.

step 1) write down a list of strategy/approach

I'm serious.

For example, mine use to start kinda like this:
-sync timing
-set up req_fuel
-calibrate tps
-calibrate wb02
-calibrate thermistors
-do idle valve test
-set up idle valve
-start tuning idle and startup


and on and on and on and on
Otherwise you're just randomly and chaotically messing with junk and learning pretty much nothing.
Approach is everything.
Hope that helps.

^^ Good advice.
Inj dead time and ignition latency should be early as well
Warm-up curve
Then be cognizant of further changes that effect previous work, like, if you re-adjust warm-up, it will effect After-start enrichment. That's also a good reason to do the warm-up first. Another is EAE, which can mess with After Start until you get the Temp and RPM corrections in place to compensate.

In short, being deliberate keeps you from chasing your tail.