Hmm I'm gonna have to pick one up from esteban. Question: every time I put my ac on my temps rise up alot. Is the fan not strong enough or another reason why a tray might help

Very nervous about tomorrows body work. I can never go back.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1398790219Going Under The Scapel by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr

Undertray or not (Yes, you need the undertray), there's no way your temps should be doing that with a good radiator, shroud, and those SPAL fans you said you installed earlier.

You sure the fans are running the right way? Do you have them both set to come on staggered?

yes, the bigger fan is on the engine side the smaller on the ac side. I am working on getting a oem under tray unless I can pick up a beatrush skid plate. But I dont feel like cutting up metal to make it fit. I also have a small drip of coolant by my temp sensor for the temperature gauge. I ordered new oem hoses for now and plan on getting heat wrap or a heat insulator that a member mentioned.

Your fans are different sizes? That's weird.

Make sure they're pulling and not pushing.

They are pushing towards the engine bay and pulling from the radiator

Yeah, sounds right. That's what he meant by pulling, same as the OEM setup.

Undertray + ducting and you will not have overheating issues :)

Gerald, does it overheat at idle in the same scenario?

Gotcha. And I am going to get a tray from esteban the next time Im in orlando.



It doesn't over heat idling, just when the ac is on driving around. This happened in Orlando driving back home.

I did find a small drip leaking from the temp sensor for my temp gauge. Other then that I totally agree with you. I have a great cooling system and this strikes me odd.

What i'm asking is if it overheats when at idle, sitting still, with the A/C on. :bowrofl:

If it's just while driving around, get an undertray on that bitch. Do that anyways. But if it's doing it while not moving with the a/c on, then you've got other issues.

Okay I'll find out

Definitely ducting then, once the car is moving >30-40mph the fans arent doing anything and the car relies on air being pushed through the heat exchangers. If there is no ducting the air takes the path of least resistance and goes AROUND the exchangers instead of through them.

Edit: I also agree with concealer, if its overheating at idle than ducting won't do anything for you.

It's 83 windy and cloudy here atm. It's not overheating sitting in my drive way running for 15 mins with the ac on. Be it may that the occurrence happened at high speeds of 70 mph when I experienced high temps under ac.

Temps stayed around 175

teaser

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1399055009Screenshot_2014-05-02-14-14-27 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr

Almost there

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1399434810
20140506_122028 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr

Going back to the heating issue, my thermostat is gutted.

Btw

Live in the now!:


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Installed the om under tray and modified it to fm piping. Temps drop significantly. Thank you.

Btw I am experiencing issues with my tune. I will post them up in a bit.

I have been experiencing several issues. One of which I am at the point where I parked the car for a week and will be there longer if I can not fix the problem. I am barely familiar with MS and I don't mess around in the program.

Problem one is my car shuts off either in a few different scenearios:

Cruising and coasting to a stop while out of gear
Cruising and coasting to a stop and downshift gears to a stop and it's out of gear for the last 10 felt or so

I sometimes can take it out of gear and it keeps the gears idle high enough to keep driving without using the acceleration pedal

Shuts off at a stop of the other symptoms do not effect the idle prior

I have several logs of each issue in all 3.

Custom undertray cutout. This side is much cleaner then the other side. Words of advice, use protective glasses when dremeling plastic. It can burn when it contacts your skin. Lol I put them on towards the end of the cutting and got some plastic under my eye and have a couple burns.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1400160787
20140515_090139 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


I tried searching but I didn't see a physical photo of the different gear ratio speed sensors. I am putting a 3.9 speed sensor in my 6speed msm for my 3.9 diff. This is the difference


The size difference in gears. The 3.9 is much smaller then the 4.1 and the color of the gear. The 3.9 is white while the msm is yellow. And to tell which gear is in your transmission, there is a color coordinated circle on the outside. The 4.1 is green. The 3.9 is blue.


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damn, will need to trim my undertray soon. Thanks for the advice about that sh*t getting hot and keeping it out of your eyeballs!

The speedo sender split is all 5 speed & early 6 speed, and later 6 speed. I think the split is somewhere around 2001? That's from memory as I've played this game recently.

I just purchased a mtuned coolant reroute. I will be also purchasing this itemize list after my wheels are paid for. I have redeemed one request at the beginning of the thread with my wheels and replaced them with the cr01 15x9+25 with 15mm spacers to fit under my flares.



PTP Turbo Blankets

1x T25/T28 Turbo Blanket - Lava****$164.95
turbo blanket

50ft Long x 2in Wide : Lava Heat Wrap****$43.95
for down pipe and midpipe

16x 15in Stainless Steel Locking Ties
holding the heat wrap in place

16x 8in Stainless Steel Locking Ties****$22.40
holding heat wrap around the radiator hoses nearest turbo and exhaust

8x Spark Plug Boots - Black****$36.00
self explanatory

Gold Adhesive Thermal Barrier Sheet - 12" x 24"****$34.50
Keeping cabin temps down. Transmission tunnel and firewall

15ft Long x 1in Wide : Lava Heat Wrap****$12.95
Wrap for around radiator hoses

This just arrived. Used and one hose is compromised so luckily I have two lower radiator silicone hoses to manipulate a similar cutout.


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Just purchased my advanced heat resistant products mentioned up above minus the lava blanket.-

Spark plug boot covers, heat wrap for all the radiator hoses with heat resistant zip ties, Gold adhesive wrap for the transmission tunnel to reduce cabin temps and firewall drivers side, and heat wrap in 1" diameter for hoses and 2" X 50ft for downpipe and exhaust.


So this plus the reroute and under tray with spal fans equals dramatic engine temps dropping. I'm still considering a bonnet vent.


Also Jeff linfert will be fixing my dd issues.

My care package came in.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401224798
20140527_151537 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


and put together the spark plug sleeves for now


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Are you going to the moon with this thing?

Lol linear essentially instead of horizontal. All precaution of course.

I'm confused... why sleeves for the plugwires? Those things are usually used in applications like domestic V8s where the plugwire is exposed to an exhaust primary.

Example:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401231527

It's not usually a concern with DOHC engines like ours where there is no direct exposure.

My engine temps with the gauge were reading above 220 f. Before the spal fans and undertray, I thought it would be a good idea to cover the plug wires. I will be tracking the car so essentially it's an issue that might occur won't happen.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401748481
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if your plug wires get melted, you will have lost the head a lonnnnng time ago lol

They are not melted. Just making sure I look cool. But I think they will help with continuity.

liking the meaty wheels. did you raise the car? looks higher

Yeah I need the car to settle and decide if I need to lower the back end. Other then that, I will be install 15 mm spacers to bring the wheels that much farther out to fit the flares better.

Today I lowered the rear about an inch and added 15 mm spacers all around. I couldn't be more proud then what I am now for how the car sits.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1401898283
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looks mean. very nice

Looks pretty sick. Go down another 1/4 inch in front to give it a tiny bit of rake IMO.

I traded my ms2 for a ms3. Time for the upgrade and less problems.

Reroute is done. MS3X is still currently being fine tuned. But for now


Car is going back for more tunning on the MS3X. Can't wait to have it all to myself. Took these today before the drop off.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403889022Mini_FD by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403889022Parked at a Park by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403889022Eau Gallie District by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr

How is the brake clearance on those wheels?

They are fine. they are a 20 offest

Yes, but can you fit big brakes under these? 11", 11.75", so on. A lot of these wheels have tiny barrels and no matter the offset can't physically fit a big rotor + caliper.

I dont know if they will fit. My assumption is that they would. And I do know FM has a kit to make BBK's fit.

The car is back on the road. We fixed my deceleration problem. It would keep shutting off coming to a stop and or when I'm stopped and turn the ac on.

We changed a few things like dead time in the injectors, voltage, and made my own cruise control port become a vehicle speed sensor for the idle control valve. So when the cars speed hits 20 mph in a decel, the icv kicks in and says oh wait I need to turn on so I don't stall the car. And so there you have it.

I'm going to also continue to auto tune both my afr a couple times a week.

Gassed up ready for autocross in Orlando for mac

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404693809
Gassing Up by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr

My autocross times last Sunday


Final Results



https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405601998
DSC00796 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


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I got second in ns class creeping in on the '14 porsche cayman s. I believe I could have beaten him.

Just did some simple wrapping. The Intake pipe and the IAT sensor Pipe


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=14057012922014-07-18_12-27-54 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=14057012922014-07-18_12-27-41 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=14057012922014-07-18_12-27-17 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=14057012922014-07-18_12-26-55 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=14057012922014-07-18_12-26-38 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr

Went for a cruise in the middle of florida where yeehaw junction and lake wales. Turned north on 441 to 192 and headed home.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406041781DSC00998 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406041781Kiss. National State Park by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406041781Heaven Sent? NO its a Curse by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406041781DSC00933 by rocketeerbandit, on Flickr

Satellite worthy!

Lol. It goes with the thermal plug covers

Today I replaced the passenger side lower ball joint since the drivers side was replaced 3 years ago.

Also replaced both tie rods with bigger travel raybestos. The drivers side was torn.

So this is what's up, I have low compression numbers and possible exhaust valves tweaked. I'm feeling mixed emotions right now and just need help.

I don't know where to start on a high HP turbo application turbo rebuild on the bp4w. I don't know what parts are over priced, quality, or to stay away from.

I also am mixed on parting the car out. Now I don't want anyone to make dibs but I am just depressed. I can't get the motor rebuild started until September which gives me time to buy parts and stock up for the build. I need someone in Florida to give me a quality job like bsi did to jeannes 10ae.

You can't go wrong purchasing from one of our vendors. If I were you, I'd suggest contacting Fab9 tuning. Bryan has really turned up the wick on customer service, his prices are awesome, and he knows how to build a turbo miata. He'll get you absolutely everything you need for your engine build, all in one package.

You can get similar setups from other vendors, but in my research Fab9 pretty much kills it pricewise.

My 2 cents.

Also: I don't know why you seem surprised that the motor is toast. We saw the dyno results and all of us said "better start gathering parts for an engine build because it's not going to live long at those power levels."

No reason to be depressed -- you knew it was coming. Not trying to be a dbag, it's gotta suck.

I posted in this very thread that you're on borrowed time, did you think that somehow you'll get lucky and be an exception?

See post 38.

On a positive note, the BP is one of the easiest engines to build, and compared to other cars its relatively cheap too.

I say build this thing and really turn it up :party:

Guys I knew it was going to happen. It's like a parent or grandparent going to die and not knowing when and being upset when it does happen. I am still upset and depressed about it. I already knew it was going to happen. I'm not surprised.

The car isn't toast. It just low compression numbers


As for the build I think I want to push 350hp close to 375hp. Build will probably begin I September after buying parts for a month.

375 is going to rock your world. its nuts

Fyi numbers were 135-140

I am going to need to start ordering parts for the entire month of August for rebuild in September.

What are your suggestions on pistons, rods, valve springs etc? I am wanting to upgrade the oil pump, water pump etc as well.

Is there any funny behavior? What compression gauge are you using? If it's 135-140 across the board, those are acceptable numbers from a shitty HF gauge.

We are having a problems with the tunning. Here's the list

Afr is pig rich in idle. Won't come out of 10s unless we lean it out then it stalls.

Great vacuum when cold. Mediocre vacuum when warm to temp.


Fuel pressure constant 58kpa on gauge.

A lot of unburned fuel is coming out of the exhaust.