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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
You did all this with a fluxcore welder?

Ok, I'm impressed. Compared to some of the TIGed stuff we see here, your welds look like ****, but compared to anything I was ever able to do with a cheap flux welder, they're actually pretty decent.
Yes sir. 90% of the welds here were done with a Norther Tool flux core that had a bad voltage control system for the spool, so wire speed was whtatever it felt like being. Then a few days ago, it finally quit all together and I bought a better Lincoln flux core, and it works great. If you give me a good welder I can make nice welds, I have about 1,600 hours of welding experience.

In this pic, welds on left are old welder, weld on right is new welder.

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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 05:35 PM
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dude

this is gay

stop it

just buy my borg s366 hotside. that includes tube mani, quick spool valve (which actually works), downpipe, exhaust. .
Old Feb 18, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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^Knows gay.
Old Feb 18, 2016 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
dude

this is gay

stop it

just buy my borg s366 hotside. that includes tube mani, quick spool valve (which actually works), downpipe, exhaust. .
Too much $$$, doesn't work with a/c and P/S.
Old Feb 18, 2016 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
dude

this is gay

stop it

just buy my borg s366 hotside. that includes tube mani, quick spool valve (which actually works), downpipe, exhaust. .
we're still waiting for you to make big power sweet pea
Old Feb 19, 2016 | 02:35 PM
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If you're having trouble scaling down the oil flow, you could also try this little pump:
http://www.ecotrons.com/files/ECOTRO...cal%20spec.pdf
Old Feb 19, 2016 | 02:37 PM
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Are you using the giant pump to feed the turbo? Or to scavenge it?
Old Feb 19, 2016 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
Joe posted a link to 20,000 different ones, not a specific one that would work though he described one that would work.
I posted links to two specific FETs which would work. One was a chassis-mount style with screw terminals, the other was a through-hole part. Selection between the two is up to the user, based on how you want to wire it.

Not sure if this link will take you to the correct post, but it's post #38 in this thread: https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...8/#post1304916
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Originally Posted by aidandj
Are you using the giant pump to feed the turbo? Or to scavenge it?
That's a scavenge pump. Main oil pump and gravity feed the turbo, but it's too low to gravity drain back to the pan.

I really wanted to make little oil sumps that attach to the oil drain flange on turbos. Then if a little oil did make it past a pressure check valve in the feed line it would have a place to go.

Here's what f-body guys like to use on the oil feed. Takes a third a pound of pressure to pop.

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Recognizing that I'm bumping a relatively old post in the thread...

Originally Posted by deezums
From what I've read, having a bit of oil in the brass gears isn't going to make much difference. The gears will contact each other on each revolution, there's nothing to be done to stop that.

A gerotor pump would be boss, but I don't know of anyone that makes a scavenge pump one.
There's nothing inherently wrong with gear-type oil pumps. They were used on every single Volkswagen & Porsche engine from the 1930s through the late 1970s (a design noted for its uncanny durability), and were a standard feature of many other OEM designs as well.



Obviously, the need to fully seal the driveshaft of the pump against leakage is absent from engine-driven pumps, but is present in external motor-driven pumps of all designs (including georotor pumps) save for diaphragm pumps.

Georotor pumps are used on modern engines mostly for reasons of cost and packaging size. As they can be fitted coaxially with the crankshaft, they occupy less space, and require less complex machining to produce. These criteria are wholly economic in nature, and have nothing at all to do with either reliability or ease of leak-proofing.
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My post there was in reference to the noise of a gear driven oil pump, they are loud as hell. On an engine driven oil pump you wouldn't much notice the noise, especially considering all the other 1930's tech powering the pump.

You saw the video of it running, compared to a diaphragm pump?
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So...

My ebay turbo setup....

In 3rd gear on VD.

With ebay taco manifold/turbos/BOV/wastegate








































Did this.



You will not the power is kind of not dying up top either.
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So is that like 200hp on a dynojet?
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No at least 270
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Nice, that's some awesome numbers on a pretty slim budget.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
So is that like 200hp on a dynojet?
No, it's like 415 on a dynojet.


Originally Posted by pdexta
Nice, that's some awesome numbers on a pretty slim budget.
Thanks! I think it's awesome power for the budget. Hell plenty of people not making this much power with any budget.

I made some changes to the fuel system, so this is only 80% duty cycle in the primaries. Will turn up the boost tomorrow.
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can you please do a pull in 5th from 2k?
I know it's hard, but surely there's gotta be a road somewhere in your state to do this.
you're making great power, I bet it's a monster, but I care more about the shape of the curve than peak numbers
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Originally Posted by 18psi
can you please do a pull in 5th from 2k?
I know it's hard, but surely there's gotta be a road somewhere in your state to do this.
you're making great power, I bet it's a monster, but I care more about the shape of the curve than peak numbers
I know. This isn't a final plot, just a plot for tuning as I go. Thought I'd share. When it's at final boost with this fuel setup, I'll do that. For you.

I've been making short pulls for now because it's stupid loud, waiting on Magnaflow muffler and cat to arrive. And other stuff I ordered.
Old Feb 20, 2016 | 01:46 AM
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Also V, what AFR for >30 PSI on E85?
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Gotcha, makes sense.
As for afr, e85 can still be kept at 12 unlike pump where you'd want to fatten it up with serious boost.

looks like it dips quite a bit past 7, lean it back out, you'll gain more IDC and pick up power.

that power should be good for 130mph trap speeds, and put a hurting on most street cars that are not tx2k cars



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