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Leafy 11-22-2012 03:34 PM

Ryan, you sound like me. Trust me, the 700/400 combo on xidas is what you really want. Ride quality is so much better than stock. But if you are going to the billies, 600/400 is going to be undrivably loose. 700/400 assumes you've got the RB race bar up front and no or stock rear depending on alignment. 600/400 might work with the RB 1.25 man bar and no rear.

Ryan_G 11-22-2012 07:55 PM

I think I might go that route. I would love for my car to handle like it is on rails. I plan to start taking it to the track at some point and a tight suspension is a must.

Mazduh 01-06-2013 09:53 PM

Wow you're car is like almost exactly the same as mine. Black 05. mish ic, maf kit etc. Except instead of getting the ecu figured out I opted for suspension/wheels. But definitely you've inspired me to go the ms route.

I was actually the 2nd person to run Joe's first revision of the MAF kit. I ran it for a bit but am now running an FM intake. Joe's currently remaking me a new intake setup completely one off with the Maf relocate.

You're still running the maf relocate with the ms2? It's possible to delete the maf all together no?

I'm thinking come this next tax return I'll be contacting Rev. May be hitting you up for some help. I'm currently running some 321cc injectors. You think I'll need to change them out when I go stand alone?

Ryan_G 01-06-2013 10:08 PM

The only reason my MAF is still in there is because I never bothered to get an aluminum pipe to put in its place. I need to do this because right now it does nothing and is a restriction. Definitely get an ms2 ot 3. It really transforms the car. Your injectors will be fine until you need more power.

Ryan_G 01-20-2013 08:45 PM

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About 2 and a half months ago both of my headlights burned out. If I replaced them again this would have been the 4th set in a year and I was getting tired of them burning out so i decided to just go ahead and purchase a HID kit which would give me better visibility anyway.

DDM tuning had their base level kit on sale for 30 dollars which is about as much as what I would have paid for stock bulb replacements. I went ahead and bought a kit from them without realizing that if you do not purchase something directly from a shop they ship from China and not Cali.

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This resulted in my kit taking 3 weeks to get to me. During this period I drove around with just foglights because I rarely drive at night and it is always on a well lit street if I do so the fog lights were alert other drivers of my presence without being dangerous for my visibility.

I got away with this without being pulled over a single time until fucking New Year's Eve. I had received the kit that day but ran out of sunlight to install it. Like an idiot I drove my car that night and got pulled over on my way home. Luckily I just got a warning because I played dumb.

The very next morning I installed the kit with great ease and tested the lights out that night. I went with 6k HID's. The visability over stock is amazing and I like the ever so slight blue tint.

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Sorry for the terrible pictures. I do not own a real camera so I use my phone.

This past weekend I finally stopped being lazy and got around to fixing some minor issues that my car was having. I had developed a slight vacuum leak that ended up just being a bad OEM spring clamp on the hose that vents from the valve cover to the intake manifold. This little leaked made the car drive like absolute shit and get mediocre mileage (23-24mpg) even with me babying it.

My IAT sensor had also never worked correctly after I installed my MS2. This ended up being because I was retarded and left the two connections to the pigtails of the sensor exposed and touching each other in the heatshrink. :vash: After I taped them off everything worked great.

I also received a package in the mail recently that has me rather excited!

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I got a great deal on this 3.63 R+P that I couldn't pass up. I am probably going to wait until I am making a bit more power to install them but I do like the idea of being able to cruise at 70mph @3000 rpms.

I am currently working on tuning my EBC with a target of 13psi. This should have already been done but I thought something was hooked up wrong because it seemed to only be using wastegate pressure. Th real problem is that I did not realize that the boost control duty setting was set to inverted so I essentially had it doing nothing this whole time. :loser:

Started tuning it today and I can definitely notice the difference. I reach 13psi at 3200 rpms and just need to tune it to hold to redline. I will post a virtual dyno once everything is as it should be.

FrankB 01-21-2013 12:05 AM

Congrats on the 3.636 Ryan. Are you and the MSM going to make it out to the Florida meet on the 6th of April?

Ryan_G 01-21-2013 10:40 AM

I am not sure yet. I will still be in audit season at that point but I think I can get one saturday off for that meet. I might have to go into work on Sunday instead. Looks like an increibly large amount of people will be there.

Tunah 01-21-2013 03:07 PM

Very nice car

daniel912010 01-22-2013 05:41 PM

When you installed your 3 inch exhaust, did you experience any issues?
what do you suggest if I was going to run on stock internals.
Great work by the way! can't wait to see your dyno :bowrofl:

oh and whats a ms2? is that a tune? :noob:

Ryan_G 01-22-2013 05:52 PM

I had no issues with my exhaust but I always left the stock boost cut active. Some people bypass this to turn up the boost but the injectors are out of juice at 10 psi which will cause huge problems. I am still running stock internals and the msm turbo will never make too much power for a stock bottom end.

MS2 is megasquirt 2 which is a standalone ecu. You use it to tune your car and get rid of the stock computer entirely. You sound like you have a lot of reading to do. You need to go through all the stickies in the DIY turbo section and read some of the MSM specific stuff on mazda-speed.com. If you don't fully understand a modification you should not install it. Read a lot and learn before you start modifying your car. You will be able to do it right the first time and avoid a lot of headaches.

This is the first car I have ever done any work on besides plugs, coil packs, and oil changes and because I took my time and planned everything out and read as much as possible I have been able to DD this car with only minor problems that were never enough to leave me stranded.

daniel912010 01-22-2013 06:08 PM

Basically what im trying to do is get the most power from a few mods like intake and exhaust, plus an upgraded front mount. I really dont plan on doing much modifications unless needed.

Which is why im asking so many questions about the exhaust, i have read around and people have said different things, do you think if I were to install a 3 inch exhaust, changed the injectors and bypass the boost cut or raise the boost will cause any issues?

Ive searched around and read stuff like hydra and now this ms2 but there expensive from what ive seen.

sorry for all the questions. Thank you for your help. I appreciate it.

karter74 01-22-2013 06:12 PM

missed the projector lenses, my bad

thenuge26 01-22-2013 06:12 PM

If an MS2 is too expensive, you should just stop now. Last time I checked there were 4 under $250 for sale on this site. They will take more work then getting a nice new one from Reverant, Brain, or DIYAutotune.

To get more power you need more fuel. To get more fuel you need something to put more fuel in the engine. Your shitty MSM ECU won't do that. It would be the first thing to go if I had an MSM. First engine management. Then worry about adding power.


Originally Posted by karter74
I'm definitely glad I won't be sharing the road with you with those new lights. While I do like the look of HID's, without proper projector lamps, you will be blinding fellow drivers with them.

Uh, what? Did you see his pictures of them?

slmhofy 01-22-2013 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by daniel912010 (Post 970927)
Basically what im trying to do is get the most power from a few mods like intake and exhaust, plus an upgraded front mount. I really dont plan on doing much modifications unless needed.

Which is why im asking so many questions about the exhaust, i have read around and people have said different things, do you think if I were to install a 3 inch exhaust, changed the injectors and bypass the boost cut or raise the boost will cause any issues?

Ive searched around and read stuff like hydra and now this ms2 but there expensive from what ive seen.

sorry for all the questions. Thank you for your help. I appreciate it.

The main upgrade you should do with your mazdaspeed miata is an ECU. Just doing an intake and full exhaust is going to make the car sound cool, but not very fun to drive.

slmhofy 01-22-2013 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by karter74 (Post 970928)
I'm definitely glad I won't be sharing the road with you with those new lights. While I do like the look of HID's, without proper projector lamps, you will be blinding fellow drivers with them.

The stock MSM has projector lenses so he should be fine. Did you even see his pictures? There is a nice cutoff.

Ryan_G 01-23-2013 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by slmhofy (Post 970931)
The main upgrade you should do with your mazdaspeed miata is an ECU. Just doing an intake and full exhaust is going to make the car sound cool, but not very fun to drive.

This.

I had an intake, exhaust, and front mount all on the car for about 3 months. It had more power than stock but I hated how the car drove. Once I installed the MS2 I loved the car again. The stock ecu in the MSM is the biggest POS. You pick up so much low and mid range when you switch to a new ecu. No more afterburner effect when the stock ecu stops choking the engine and the turbo kicks in full force at 5k rpm. Now I have nice smooth power delivery and I am getting full spool at 3200 rpm. It was the single best upgrade I have and will probably ever make to the car.

Mazduh 01-23-2013 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 971093)
This.

I had an intake, exhaust, and front mount all on the car for about 3 months. It had more power than stock but I hated how the car drove. Once I installed the MS2 I loved the car again. The stock ecu in the MSM is the biggest POS. You pick up so much low and mid range when you switch to a new ecu. No more afterburner effect when the stock ecu stops choking the engine and the turbo kicks in full force at 5k rpm. Now I have nice smooth power delivery and I am getting full spool at 3200 rpm. It was the single best upgrade I have and will probably ever make to the car.

Stahp! Making me so jealous. Tax return money can't come in fast enough!!

LOL


Are you still on stock seats? Have you done a rollbar yet? The next things on my list are rollbar, ecu, and clutch.

Ryan_G 01-23-2013 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Mazduh (Post 971124)
Are you still on stock seats? Have you done a rollbar yet? The next things on my list are rollbar, ecu, and clutch.

I do not have a roll bar yet. The next 3 big things in my build will be a rollbar, suspension, wheels/tires.

I am also still on stock seats which sit me way high and I do not find very comfortable. I thought about some race seats but I find them a little annoying for a DD. I will probably wait to get a pair of lotus elise/exige PROBAX seats which can accomodate a harness and are very comfy. BECAUSE STREETCAR! :party:

Until I am ready to pony up the dough for a pair of elise seats I might try a foamectomy+modfied stock rails+seat mount floor hump delete :fael: to gain as much headroom as possible so I can actually see street lights when I am the first car without leaning all the way forward.:jerkit:

Mazduh 01-23-2013 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 971132)
I do not have a roll bar yet. The next 3 big things in my build will be a rollbar, suspension, wheels/tires.

I am also still on stock seats which sit me way high and I do not find very comfortable. I thought about some race seats but I find them a little annoying for a DD. I will probably wait to get a pair of lotus elise/exige PROBAX seats which can accomodate a harness and are very comfy. BECAUSE STREETCAR! :party:

Until I am ready to pony up the dough for a pair of elise seats I might try a foamectomy+modfied stock rails+seat mount floor hump delete :fael: to gain as much headroom as possible so I can actually see street lights when I am the first car without leaning all the way forward.:jerkit:


It's entirely funny you mention that. I'm selling some elise seats. Non probax though. I rocked them for a year and they are awesome for autox/track but sucked putting up with on the daily. I personally didn't mind them, but everyone who rides with me moans and complains. (Gf) Plus the anxiety of bigger people like my folks getting in the car kills me. A lot of people never realize how low the car is and just how low the seats sat. So people would just slam down into them if I didn't warn them.

I am currently awaiting my NB mounts and sliders to come in for my 90 NA seats. Doing a foamoctomy this weekend. Even with out the foamoctomy done yet, NA seats are definitely the best choice on cheap comfy seats. Lightyears better then NB seats. I feel like I'm riding on air compared to the elise seats.

FYI, 90-93 NA seats can be found cheap, 99-05 nb brackets and sliders adapt just fine so you can mount them in your NB with working buckles just fine.

Ryan_G 01-23-2013 11:25 AM

I messaged you about possibly buying your seats and asked for a shipping quote. After I really thought about it though I decided that it would be better to wait to get seats as I think the money could be better spent elsewhere right now.


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