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Old 06-06-2017, 10:39 PM
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Thinking about signing up for a track night in america on July 5th. It's at pacific raceways which is our super old track but the next one at the ridge is at the end of July. Any objections? I heard the novice class can be hectic but I guess just watch my mirrors well and drive super carefully?

Gonna put the rollbar in. I was planning on keeping the stock 3 points for now, any objections to that? Other recommendations?

I'd like to get at least 2-3 more trackdays before lemons this year which would give me 3-4 before MRLS
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I enjoyed the Track Night I went to at Harris Hill. The head organizer guy was always glued to his cell phone and didn't care about anyone, but the different run group instructors were very attentive and helpful.
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Originally Posted by Scaxx
Thinking about signing up for a track night in america on July 5th. It's at pacific raceways which is our super old track but the next one at the ridge is at the end of July. Any objections? I heard the novice class can be hectic but I guess just watch my mirrors well and drive super carefully?

Gonna put the rollbar in. I was planning on keeping the stock 3 points for now, any objections to that? Other recommendations?

I'd like to get at least 2-3 more trackdays before lemons this year which would give me 3-4 before MRLS
you got a seat, you'll have a roll bar, why not get a harness? all the hard work and expense is already done.
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Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:34 PM
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I had heard some kinda weird stuff about the track nights that sounds kinda consistent with that lol

I could go ahead and get a harness, it wouldn't be too hard to add a harness bar to the rollbar I have sitting around. Actually had one of my friends offer to let me borrow his 5 point until his car is running so I could always take him up on that. I'm gonna go ahead and sign up for the trackday as soon as I get the check for these umbrella stands which should be in the next week or two. It's a month out so I should have enough time to get the car prepped as best as I can.


Another question, I've totally maxed out the height adjustment on my front driver xida but the driver side only sits at 4.5". Anyone else have this issue? I haven't measured the springs yet but maybe I got sent a shorter spring? I was planning on running the car at 4 7/8 pinch weld.
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What rate and length.
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900, don't know the length, whatever's standard on xidas, I'll look it up

Edit: 6"
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Post pictures. At max height and with 6" springs you should be 4x4 status.
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Will come back with pictures, gotta run to HF to pick up a press right now
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I put the car back on the ground and rolled it back and forth a few times, the frame rails are at just about the same height 3.75" so I'm starting to wonder if maybe my pinch rail is just off on that side. Also I have v8r frame rail reinforcements so if that number seems lower that's why. The springs look to be the same size,

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Did you torque the control arm bolts on the ground or in the air.
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Torqued them with the car on the ground. Should I try loosening them and re-torquing?
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You could try. But you've already done it correctly.
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Yeah, I guess I was grasping at straws lol.

I started putting the rollbar in last night as well as connecting my sway bars. Been running the car without them up until now so I figured I might as well put them on. I had to modify the racing beat brackets to fit on the V8r mounts which took a little time but everything's bolted up now. I haven't torqued them yet or adjusted the end links, I'll probably do that tonight.


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Got the sway bars adjusted and torqued down, the front one is so damn close to the pulley but it should be fine. Don't be a dumbass and try to connect the rear bar upside down, trust me, it doesn't work.

After getting the sway bars done I drilled the 6 harder to get to holes for the rollbar (the ones under the rear shelf) and I'm calling it a night. Those extra long drill bits we have really came in handy for that part. Hoping to have the rollbar in by Saturday and drive the car some Sunday.

Tomorrow the fire sleeve stuff comes so I'll pull the clutch line, wrap the **** out of it in that, some other heat resistant ****, reflective tape, and try to hang it higher and further from the headers before putting new fluid in. Hopefully, it was just the fluid boiling and not something else causing problems. Fingers crossed!

Also trying to get my buddy with the 240 to do the track night on the 5th with me. Whether I'll be able to convince him or not is still up in the air, he'd have to get some new tires for sure. I don't think mickey thompsons will cut it on a road course.
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Yesterday was a pretty good day. My buddy who has a fully restored bmw 2002 (well a couple actually) convinced me to go to a classic (pre-1988) european/japanese car show with him. I had to try out the clutch anyway, it looks like it's something besides fluid boiling, I'll get to that later. Anyway on the way down we got to run through some tunnels which was fun. Also got to play with a brand new R8 that still had temp plates....and I **** on him. That felt good. Not really one for street racing but I couldn't help myself with that one. It was close in 4th and he started to pull away and then I shifted to fifth and I pulled away from him pretty well. Car show was kinda fun, mostly just nice to bullshit with a couple friends. A lot of old Volkswagens and datsuns. Some were done well, some were more scene/stance bullshit, but not too much of that thankfully.

My parents also threw a graduation party, I brought the car which was a hit. Anyway, it was a good day overall.

So onto the problems. At this point I'm pretty sure I have to pull the trans but I kinda wanna figure out what's going on, or at least have an idea. So basically what happens is in gear with the clutch in it makes a metallic grinding type noise after a second. So you can push the clutch in and it's fine but if you hold it in it starts making the noise. So basically I've just been letting the clutch out almost launch style (that was fun in 2.5 miles of bumper to bumper traffic) because other wise it sounds terrible. At times it also kind of builds up, so if you're holding the clutch in the noise steadily gets worse over a second. If you pop it out of gear it goes away. I can't remember if it'll do it in neutral and with the clutch in, I should have tried that. Also it seems to only do it after the car's warm and has been driving for a little while. Ideas? I was thinking maybe something with the throwout bearing/slave?

I originally thought the fluid boiling because that would make sense if air got into the line but I feel like that would just let the clutch out and not make a noise like that. Also I'm not sure if the clutch is being let out during that or not, it's not a pleasant noise so it's hard to tell since I usually take it out of gear or drop the clutch right away. I wrapped it in the DEI fire sleeve as well as some other ceramic coating sleeve I had, and then topped that off with some reflective tape and mounted the line as far from the headers as I can. I also changed the fluid to rbf600 so it really shouldn't be boiling at this point.

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Maybe there is air in it that is making it boil easier?
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do you have a stock bell housing?
Edit: I went backed and looked at your stock bell housing. it sounds funny that it would slowly sound awful.my money is on the throwout bearing. GM recommends a new one every time you separate the engine and trans. ive also found to only buy the oem slave/throwout. I've had a ton of issues with the parts store replacements.
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Is there any fluid leak from the clutch system? Is the noise different than any noise you normal get from clutch engagement (like leaving from a stand still)? If there were a leak, with the car in gear and your foot on the clutch, it would eventually start to engage and roll the car forward as the system lost pressure.
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I did bleed it again after installing the heat protection so there shouldn't have been air in it, but shouldn't it just let the clutch out then? Basically just slowly letting it out (or fast depending on how much air) but no weird noises I thought?

Yeah stock bell housing, I didn't buy a new slave this last time since the one that I used only had 18 miles on it. Maybe that was my mistake

Yeah noise is definitely different, doesn't make any noise normally.
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we are going to need a video of the noise.... include a burnout for good measure. 2nd gear dump at 4000rpm.
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